extended brake line fitment issue, frustrations.

the great him

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ok so to start this off, i dont mean to bash anyone or toytec them selfs as they only marketing the product, but good f*cking lord. dylan yes you need to chew someones ass out at the company that makes these for you guys... f*ck man im really pissed off right now, words cant even discribe how angry i am... i now have a 4runner that is of no use to me, just sitting in my driveway with a giant puddle of brake fluid on the ground under it. first off is the small mear minor issue that i talk to dylan about, ok thats getting fixed cool, im ok with that. -other than the fact of, how many other people out there are running these lines without the right clips in, and have lose lines that are just rattling around inside the brackets and wearing down on the end fittings... at some point they will wear thought and cause a leak. not cool, and a law suit waiting to happen. secondly the colars on the fittings are not only not the same design they are NOT the same size. the ones being made for toytec are smaller, which allow them to slip through the holes in the bracket if turned the right way. -the factory oval hole is just big enough that the "hex" head on these aftermarket ones will slip through not allowing for a snug tight fit. -so far i am only speaking of the front brake lines, and these issues while annoying as they are can be dealt with and remedied.

what really fried me was when i went to instal the rear one... ok sure its a PITA to get off, and im sure thats where part of this rant is coming from, is im a little heated about that one. but there is a C-clip on the factory line(i have a 97 so only a single line for the rears) at the top, and on the aftermarket one there is no place for this C-clip to clip into, not only that, but the opening/hole in the bracket is so large the, entire line with fit through with ease! there is no way to secure the rear line to the hanger with out it rattling around in there. i tried to put in some washers but the shifted as i was tightening down my line and have not pinched over my hard line trying to get the upper fitting tight. everything shifted on me because there is no way to lock down the line and keep it from moving... its too late to get a line from anyone today, and i have to be to work in the morning, -not going to happen cause i have no vehicle. my truck is down right now cause the wife and i decided to take insurance off and not register it this year cause we would have to have smogged it and $$$ was tight so we let it pass this year...

again im more pissed at this company who is making these and saying that they are a direct replacement for our trucks when clearly they are not. i have done more than my fair share of brake, air, hydraulic, trans ect lines from simple passenger cars to race cars, to heavy industrial equipment to know what im doing when it comes installing lines whether they be high end super high pressure to just a standard water line for rear heat... this is just wow... i will have to admit im a little disappointed in toytec for not having caught some of these issues before...

has anyone else had issues with their steel braided brake lines, or am i kinda out here on my own. -and who if you(toytec) dont mind me asking is making your lines... i wouldnt mind talking with someone over there about the quality control, and R&D of the applications...
 
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Mine came from Wheelers and look like this. Mine dies have the abs hence the two lines. Hopefully another Toytec customer can help out.
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brake lines

i had almost same problum used them for a few days.the had to get the right better ones from a place i hate 4WHEEL PARTS but they worked as they should;i did end up paying a 3 times the price for them but they fit like they should :humble:
 
Man that sucks. I definitely hate brake lines with a burning fire ever since I turned the nuts on the lines of my 86 Chevy into circles. I would be interested to see the difference in Toytec's line and Sonoran Steel's line. I have the SS one and it bolted up just fine. Had the slot for the C clip and it fit in there pretty tightly.
 
I had a local hose shop do mine. So no problems for me.

i was gonna do this but i laughed at them when they quoted me $200+ to make 3 lines... then i walked in an showed them the lines that i got from toytec for much less with the DOT stamp in them and told the guy at the counter he was way off his rocker if he thought that i was gonna pay that much...
 
yeah that's crazy $200, I forgot what I paid, it's been so long. I'm pretty sure they even used the factory fittings, which saved money.
 
Man that sucks. I definitely hate brake lines with a burning fire ever since I turned the nuts on the lines of my 86 Chevy into circles. I would be interested to see the difference in Toytec's line and Sonoran Steel's line. I have the SS one and it bolted up just fine. Had the slot for the C clip and it fit in there pretty tightly.

idk im not a big fan of SS... i dont want to have to buy from them if i can avoid it, especially after dropping the $$$ on these lines. i will buy from them before i buy from waskely wabbit though... :hunter::deadhorse:
 
Wheeler off roads fit great up front for me. Have a rear waiting to go in when I do my lift. Fronts got done with a tundra brake upgrade
 
I have Toytec extended brake lines on my '02 so I feel your pain. They were an absolute PITA to install! Mine do have the C clip slots and even came with replacement C clips so they don't rattle around. The only problem I ran into was that the C clips they provided are slightly thicker than the stock C clips. It was only really an issue on one of the connectors because I couldn't get it to "seat" completely so I ended up just reusing the stock C clip and it seems to be working out just fine.
 
The front ones were more difficult to install than stock removal, but I recall no real difficulty. I DO recall messing around with that rear line for quite a while and ended up with some sort of hose clamp styled jumble... You're right, this seems to be someone's sheer oversight as it wouldn't be that difficult to just make the proper bracket adapter. Sorry you've had such a go of it.
 
I have Toytec extended brake lines on my '02 so I feel your pain. They were an absolute PITA to install! Mine do have the C clip slots and even came with replacement C clips so they don't rattle around. The only problem I ran into was that the C clips they provided are slightly thicker than the stock C clips. It was only really an issue on one of the connectors because I couldn't get it to "seat" completely so I ended up just reusing the stock C clip and it seems to be working out just fine.

the issue im running into is the stock spring clips(what you are calling C-clips) are too worn out, and have lost their tension, not to mention that they are thinner as you pointed out and being so they do not hold the collars like they should, you need to be using the thicker ones that toytec provides(if they only provided enough of them in the first place it might help -but thats being taken care of, thank you dylan for taking the initiative to get that fixed for me), but the thicker spring clips have "notches" in them where the brake lines are designed to sit so that helps them from sliding around. but that does not help the fact that the collars/flanges/fittings them selfs are still too small.


you guys running the toytec steel braided lines i highly advise you to check your lines especially at the brackets where the spring clips are, and check for movement and looseness. any rubbing or moving around of the lines will cause wear and could potentially be the source of a leak. again i do not believe this is toytecs fault as they do not make the line but sadly their name is on the product and this could potentially come back to bit them in the butt. also there is no issue what so ever with the threads and or the crimping or the fittings other than stated above. everything else about the lines appears to be top quality and i would have no issues running them on my truck other wise. i might end up cutting off the brackets and just leaving the lines hand as they will and saying F it
 
idk im not a big fan of SS... i dont want to have to buy from them if i can avoid it, especially after dropping the $$$ on these lines. i will buy from them before i buy from waskely wabbit though... :hunter::deadhorse:

I totally understand that. I originally got the SS1.2 kit so I got them included.
 
Issac,

Give me a call when you can and i will get everything figured out for you. I've installed a bunch of the rear lines before and never had any issues. The clips aren't the easiest thing to seat but that is pretty much the case with all the brake lines I've ever experienced.

-Dylan
 

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