Flopped 5th Gen

mesooohoppy said:
play stupid games, win stupid prizes. hope the flop was worth the post on the 'gram!


i guess i didnt see that, even with my thick ass glasses. :)
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Well it's only monday at work and I'm already working on a cup of coffee and a red bull. Still feel like I need more caffeine!!!
 
Complacency. I have been guilty of this as well. when I am out alone i.e without wife or kids but with a buddy or two. Past Saturday was up on t33 trail in Boulder rated difficult (5-5) but a fun trail which I have done twice before but at an off camber section, no spotter the rear passenger wheel came up suddenly about 2 feet and the front driver side took a nose dive and surprised me cause I wasn't expecting it. I had not disconnected the sway bar links this time which I had done on previous trips. Needless to say but disconnected the sway bar links and all was well and had a great day.
 
A lot of trails in socal (that are close to the city) are like this now.....its just too many people, and mistakes happen.
 
intercede007 said:
Stuff like this gives me serious anxiety about going off-road for the first time. I can't figure out they managed to do this.

Say I got myself into trouble here, and my self-preservation meter is pegged in the "NOPE" zone. Can you back up and wuss out?

Anyone know what "BB Pass" is from this thread?

Not sure how this happened but, ouch 2017 flop
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It's a risk like with anything. The issue is that a mistake can cost a lot (yourself and the car). Just take things slow. I've only been at this for a few years but through experience have learned quite a bit. If you're new to this keep the truck stock for a while besides some rock sliders, skids, and tires. Take it on forest service trails, dirt roads. Then progress to harder terrain as you go. The good news is that you live in Colorado. You have UNLIMITED trail access from beginner to advanced to hard core. I suggest picking up Charles Wells book. You get a list of trails, maps, points of interests, and descriptions of the trail with certain obstacles and difficulty level.

Just be careful, this forum and the 4Runner are a HUGE time suck and money pit. Have fun.

https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Colora...lorado&qid=1564440716&s=sporting-goods&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Northern-Col...lorado&qid=1564440716&s=sporting-goods&sr=8-2
 
sn_85 said:
It's a risk like with anything. The issue is that a mistake can cost a lot (yourself and the car). Just take things slow. I've only been at this for a few years but through experience have learned quite a bit. If you're new to this keep the truck stock for a while besides some rock sliders, skids, and tires. Take it on forest service trails, dirt roads. Then progress to harder terrain as you go. The good news is that you live in Colorado. You have UNLIMITED trail access from beginner to advanced to hard core. I suggest picking up Charles Wells book. You get a list of trails, maps, points of interests, and descriptions of the trail with certain obstacles and difficulty level.

Just be careful, this forum and the 4Runner are a HUGE time suck and money pit. Have fun.

https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Colora...lorado&qid=1564440716&s=sporting-goods&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/Northern-Col...lorado&qid=1564440716&s=sporting-goods&sr=8-2
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Those are great books! I have their California and Utah ones too. I always keep them in the car as you never know where youll end up on a spontaneous road trip lol
 
97BlackAckCL said:
I don't think there is any doubt. Honestly I just assumed that this was the cause
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From the frontal pic further down the FB chain it seems like plain out lack of knowledge but who knows.

redneckcrawler said:
Nope, not taking that bet
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me neither

intercede007 said:
Stuff like this gives me serious anxiety about going off-road for the first time. I can't figure out they managed to do this.

Say I got myself into trouble here, and my self-preservation meter is pegged in the "NOPE" zone. Can you back up and wuss out?

Anyone know what "BB Pass" is from this thread?

Not sure how this happened but, ouch 2017 flop
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As mentioned, buy the Wells books and read carefully the introductions as well. They really do have all the techniques you actually need short of hardcore trails.

Then start from the green Wells trails, which range from dirt roads to trails that will seriously push most crossovers. Then get to moderate, blue trails. These often feature milder versions of what you will find on reasonable difficult trails as well.

Wells subdivides (look at the symbols) the difficult trails into such suitable for stock vehicles and such that he thinks are not. Of course, he is a bit conservative in that assessment but that is a good thing.

Remember that trails can change all the time. His CO books (2 for the state) are brand new and he has a new AZ book coming out early next year.

mrblah said:
A lot of trails in socal (that are close to the city) are like this now.....its just too many people, and mistakes happen.
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Yeah, the most popular trails everywhere have become a mess.

intercede007 said:
Thanks man! I was gonna ask my local FB group for good trail maps. These were actually the ones that popped up Googling. Bought.
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The Wells guides have all you need and he also sells GPX cards with the tracks. You will be on safer ground with Wells. Once you start asking random folks you will quickly drown in subjectivity: "Black Bear is kid's play!" "Black Bear is hardcore!" Wells guides are spot on for Wranglers and 4Runners (though harder to use with crossovers).

And join TrailDamage.com. For 12$ a year you get the most comprehensive guide for CO and southern UT with plenty of pictures of trails. And gpx files.
 
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MAST4R said:
From the frontal pic further down the FB chain it seems like plain out lack of knowledge but who knows.



me neither



As mentioned, buy the Wells books and read carefully the introductions as well. They really do have all the techniques you actually need short of hardcore trails.

Then start from the green Wells trails, which range from dirt roads to trails that will seriously push most crossovers. Then get to moderate, blue trails. These often feature milder versions of what you will find on reasonable difficult trails as well.

Wells subdivides (look at the symbols) the difficult trails into such suitable for stock vehicles and such that he thinks are not. Of course, he is a bit conservative in that assessment but that is a good thing.

Remember that trails can change all the time. His CO books (2 for the state) are brand new and he has a new AZ book coming out early next year.



Yeah, the most popular trails everywhere have become a mess.



The Wells guides have all you need and he also sells GPX cards with the tracks. You will be on safer ground with Wells. Once you start asking random folks you will quickly drown in subjectivity: "Black Bear is kid's play!" "Black Bear is hardcore!" Wells guides are spot on for Wranglers and 4Runners (though harder to use with crossovers).

And join TrailDamage.com. For 12$ a year you get the most comprehensive guide for CO and southern UT with plenty of pictures of trails. And gpx files.
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Just to add to this, you can get the GPX files off Well's website at Funtreks.com
 
I hope his insurance coverage carries off road damage. Many find out they dont have the coverage until it is too late. Hard to get the law out there to do and collision report. My most extreme off road would be the beach or some really lite trails. No way would I take a fairly new TRD on a serious trail, but thats me. Mileage varies.
 
intercede007 said:
Stuff like this gives me serious anxiety about going off-road for the first time. I can't figure out they managed to do this.

Say I got myself into trouble here, and my self-preservation meter is pegged in the "NOPE" zone. Can you back up and wuss out?
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Yep, if you can safely back out of an uncomfortable situation, do so!

Rising Sun is your local club. We do a lot of fun runs that you can get in on to get you started going out with experienced folks.

Rising Sun Toyota 4x4 Club * Denver, CO

If you're on Facebook then the Colorado 5th Gens page is a good place to meet up with people.

Facebook - Colorado 5th Gens

Then when you do go out have Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery on speed dial if you need help. They can also usually be contacted via ham radio throughout the state on the Colorado Connection linked repeater system:

Home - Colorado 4x4 Rescue & Recovery

https://colcon.org

And if you really want to do it right take the great driving and recovery classes offered by Matt at On Trail Training - big discounts also available of you join CO4x4RNR:

ON TRAIL TRAINING | HOME
 
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