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Not a hater. Just not a fan. That Tom Brady destroying his cellphone during the deflate gate investigation thing didn’t sit well with me.
 
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I saw on the news that after one of Kraft’s “massages” the police pulled him over with a marked car, just to confirm it was him. They got his DL and confirmed his identity. He went back the next day for another round. No player could be that stupid, much less an owner.
 
I saw on the news that after one of Kraft’s “massages” the police pulled him over with a marked car, just to confirm it was him. They got his DL and confirmed his identity. He went back the next day for another round. No player could be that stupid, much less an owner.

Trust me they are arrogant.

Try google the on going Hawaii corruption we got and see how arrogant some of our higher ups are. Innocent until proven guilty but where there is this much smoke there gotta be a fire.
 
there are men that do this type stuff .. my neighbor got bagged by the cops for sex purchases . I also gave some of my ship mates some cash so they could do this type stuff.

I never did use any sex women workers because it is a health issue ..

I was surprised that Kraft being so loaded with cash and all those super bowl rings should have had at least 3 women with 48DD and have them live in his vacation homes .. why go to a public place ?
 
Goodell is in on this he still pissed about their last two SB wins.

So what Kraft hits the parlors, least he wasn't beating or raping the girls like DA players.
Still no excuse for going to public parlor that was DA all over with his cash.
 
Its a power trip or the excitment of getting caught. He has a private jet, He could have gone to a legal parlor in Nevada or to a country where prostitution is legal. Just goes to show that money cannot give you dignity or moral character. "Money often costs too much.” Ralph Waldo Emerson.
 
Its a power trip or the excitment of getting caught. He has a private jet, He could have gone to a legal parlor in Nevada or to a country where prostitution is legal. Just goes to show that money cannot give you dignity or moral character. "Money often costs too much.” Ralph Waldo Emerson.

I would assume it would be more that he didn't want it to seem like he was doing anything wrong. He's got a gf and I'm guessing she wouldn't be stoked if he was going to a brothel in Nevada or Amsterdam. Whereas you're just getting a massage at a massage parlor. Nothing wrong with that, right?
 
I would assume it would be more that he didn't want it to seem like he was doing anything wrong. He's got a gf and I'm guessing she wouldn't be stoked if he was going to a brothel in Nevada or Amsterdam. Whereas you're just getting a massage at a massage parlor. Nothing wrong with that, right?

I doubt his girl would mind if he was locked up for life if she had his credit cards
 
I doubt his girl would mind if he was locked up for life if she had his credit cards

Being she's 39 and he's 77, you're probably right. I ain't sayin' she's a gold digger...

But after thinking about your original statement more, I'd say the bigger motivation for not going through legal channels is the social backlash if he were seen going to one. Along with what I said before. All combined would make sense on why he'd want to go a route that would in most cases, fly under the radar.
 
His girl has a baby and he ain’t even the baby daddy. Hmmm.... you could look at it this way, at his age, it’s quite an accomplishment to even be in that situation, what with the “massages” and all.
 
I would assume it would be more that he didn't want it to seem like he was doing anything wrong. He's got a gf and I'm guessing she wouldn't be stoked if he was going to a brothel in Nevada or Amsterdam. Whereas you're just getting a massage at a massage parlor. Nothing wrong with that, right?

Nah I don't get it either. With his money he could discreetly go anywhere and have women discreetly brought to his room. Going to a public massage house is not just gross it is incredibly dumb.

In Las Vegas he could easily spend some time with a girl from a high class dating service (anyone ever watch SVU) and have everything be legal or at least where the cops don't give a crap.

Call me naive but I don't think the cops are out there busting rich guys who pay a dating service $3,000 (or whatever) for an evening date (legal and above board) where sex isn't promised it just happens of course so there is a second date and a third and on and on. Those cases are hard to prove vs a brothel house. I've always heard there are lots of dating services like this for the super rich and it isn't outright illegal and rarely pursued.

Also I think it is coming sense that the girls in these massage parlors are either trafficked or at a minimum very exploited. Catching him there is a win for the cops and a chance to get national attention in a bust.

Am I wrong?
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So it's guilty until proven innocent now? Times have changed.

Everybody hates success. I guess they will do whatever it takes to tear the franchise down.......
 
Nah I don't get it either. With his money he could discreetly go anywhere and have women discreetly brought to his room. Going to a public massage house is not just gross it is incredibly dumb.

In Las Vegas he could easily spend some time with a girl from a high class dating service (anyone ever watch SVU) and have everything be legal or at least where the cops don't give a crap.

Honestly, I think those are satisfying two different things. Hiring a very high-end escort is more to fulfill an experience fantasy. Whereas going to a massage parlor for an old fashion (or whatever else) is more on the quick and easy side.

Call me naive but I don't think the cops are out there busting rich guys who pay a dating service $3,000 (or whatever) for an evening date (legal and above board) where sex isn't promised it just happens of course so there is a second date and a third and on and on. Those cases are hard to prove vs a brothel house. I've always heard there are lots of dating services like this for the super rich and it isn't outright illegal and rarely pursued.

Also I think it is coming sense that the girls in these massage parlors are either trafficked or at a minimum very exploited. Catching him there is a win for the cops and a chance to get national attention in a bust.

Am I wrong?
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Maybe they got several complaints on the massage parlor? Also sounds like they've been focusing on that type of business for a bit. And definitely a bit of a bonus to snag a high profile name in a bust like that. The attention that the arrest of the right type of person can bring to a certain national issue is quite amazing.

The one thing I have an issue with is how quickly the human trafficking side is dismissed with jokes or what not. How would people feel about the situation if they were say 14yo white American girls forced into it? But that may be opening a much larger and more controversial conversation.
 

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