fog light -> headlight concerns

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eliteguarding

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first off thank you to everyone who has helped me so far on my quiest to the most badass 4runner ever. JK! iv had my 4runner for like a year and a half and i had done nothing to it and now im on the road to making it 100 times better

last weekend i got the fog light relay switch changed so i can turn my fog lights on and off whenever i can independant of the headlights. (which btw i recommend to everyone, i just got back from the beach where i had 3 other 4runner owners ask me about it.) today i went to the local discount auto store place and picked up the silver star ultra light for them. i wanna begin using my fog lights as my headlights but i have 3 main concerns.

1) iv heard the foglights are pointed down some? or they are not level with the road?
2) will these be bright enough to be used as my headlights?
3) how the HELL do i change them out? a local body shop??

thank you so much!
Omar
 
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1. Seriously? Yes they point down to illuminate the road when driving in fog.
2. No, they aren't headlights.
3. Haven't changed mine yet but they probably twist to unlock.

And what year runner do you have?
 
Headlights HAVE to be on before fog lights can be on. I did like the ability in my last SUV to run just my fogs without my headlights, but then again I did not have the DRL on that one.
 
My Trail Edition requires my headlights to be on in order to turn on my (round) fog lights. The amber Daytime Running Lights (DRL) can be turned on and off but they are not intended to be fog lights.
 
the original poster states they've had their 4runner "for like a year and a half" - unless there was a magical pre-release that I missed, I doubt they have a 5th Gen.

Yes you can operated Fog lights "independently" - though they are "dependent" on having the headlights on in order to do so.

Is this a whacked thread or what?

:AK47:
 
You can mod the fog light relay to operate them independently, but to the best of my knowledge the 5th gen has done away with the dedicated fog light relay.
 
Jesse1983 said:
You can mod the fog light relay to operate them independently, but to the best of my knowledge the 5th gen has done away with the dedicated fog light relay.
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This is something I am definitely interested in doing. I performed this mod in my 4thGen, where I could independently turn on my fog (round) lights without the headlights being on. Has anyone done this yet on the 5th? It is my understanding that the 5th does not have a dedicated fuse.

Also looking to do the 12v mod where there is power to the outlet regardless of whether or not the engine is on. Has anyone done this as well?? :hungry:
 
fxoffroad said:
the original poster states they've had their 4runner "for like a year and a half" - unless there was a magical pre-release that I missed, I doubt they have a 5th Gen.

Yes you can operated Fog lights "independently" - though they are "dependent" on having the headlights on in order to do so.

Is this a whacked thread or what?

:AK47:
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yes it is strange. The DTRL (orange square) are not your fogs and will go on with the stalk position on auto or just marker lights on. Once the headlights are turned on with the auto feature or manualy the DTRL (orange square) lights will turn off and your Fog light (clear round) light will be on. You can turn them off if you want but without some kind of modification your clear round fog lights wont be on without your headlight being on.......
 
Jesse1983 said:
You can mod the fog light relay to operate them independently, but to the best of my knowledge the 5th gen has done away with the dedicated fog light relay.
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They have NOT done away with the dedicated fog lamp relay and the mod should be similar to the third and 4th gens.
 
Jesse1983 said:
have you actually seen it or are you guessing? I've looked in there and there is a fog fuse i believe, but not a relay.
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Check the back side perhaps. I am not guessing, and i really hate when people post like that. I referred to the wiring diagram and it indicated a relay was present. I then referred to the relay location page of the manual and it indicated it was in the driver side junction box assembly. I know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though) on the back side of the driver side junction box and I would assume on the 5th it would too.
 
J.A. said:
Check the back side perhaps. I am not guessing, and i really hate when people post like that. I referred to the wiring diagram and it indicated a relay was present. I then referred to the relay location page of the manual and it indicated it was in the driver side junction box assembly. I know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though) on the back side of the driver side junction box and I would assume on the 5th it would too.
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pretty contradictory. you don't like people suggesting you're guessing, but then you assume the 5th has a dedicated fog relay? You say you "know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though)". What bearing does that have on this conversation? of course it has relays, but if one isn't specifically the fog light relay it doesn't help with this mod, and it doesn't pertain to this conversation. my '05 Tacoma had a dedicated fog relay which could be easily modded to have them on whenever you wanted. the 5th gen 4R does NOT have this dedicated relay, which makes the mod much harder. Similarly, the '10 and above Tundra did away with the dedicated fog relay. don't just guess, or assume, because you know something about the 4th gen, that you know something about the 5th.
 
the 5th gen does have one for fog, one for hi beams a one for low beams. If you want to see the EWD, just click on the link in my sig. Enjoy :cheers:
 
Jesse1983 said:
pretty contradictory. you don't like people suggesting you're guessing, but then you assume the 5th has a dedicated fog relay? You say you "know the 4th gen has relays (not the fog one though)". What bearing does that have on this conversation? of course it has relays, but if one isn't specifically the fog light relay it doesn't help with this mod, and it doesn't pertain to this conversation. my '05 Tacoma had a dedicated fog relay which could be easily modded to have them on whenever you wanted. the 5th gen 4R does NOT have this dedicated relay, which makes the mod much harder. Similarly, the '10 and above Tundra did away with the dedicated fog relay. don't just guess, or assume, because you know something about the 4th gen, that you know something about the 5th.
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Haha nice. I take the time to do the research for you and you are still coming back with comments. When I said I assume, I was stating I assume it is on the back as the fsm does not say which side it is on. But like i said the relay is there. The 4G comment was to assist you in carrying the mod forward to the 5G. I was stating that the 4G had a fog relay but that it was not located in the driver junction box (its in the engine compartment jb). I was THE first person on any web forum anywhere to perform the fog mod on a 3G 4Runner 10+ years ago, I took that knowledge and applied it to the 4G. Perhaps you can learn from others and put a little effort in and get the mod to work on a 5G, but maybe not.

Last time I am going to state this here, the 5th gen does have a fog lamp relay, period.

This place is really unbelievable currently. Maybe I should just post things like "do a search yourself" on every post like most people are doing now a days.
Have a great holiday.
 
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