For Those Who Desire the V8 for the 5th Generation

[T4Fun]

go test drive an lx if you want to feel power and punch. unreal close to 400 hp! there is a guy on lexus forum who was doing 130 in his LX and took a photo of the speedometer. crazy...
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/lx570/542645-got-the-lx-to-130mph-with-picture.html

imho, no v8 will be coming to the 4runner. cafe will be going up to 34.1 mpg in 2016, so it will be prohibitive for toyota to drag down its mpg rating. Hybrids may be in store for the suvs from toyota. it has already started with HL and RX and soon the RAV4. Toyota should get its act
together though and start listening to what people want in a car, suv.


http://green.autoblog.com/2010/04/0...andards-officially-released-34-1-mpg-by-2016/

 

[philsey]

T4F has it right. It's way more about CAFE than us. There are a certain number of ppl who want what the 4R is/does, and we'll buy it regardless of the V8 (I did). They'll lose a very few V8-SUV sales to, say, a JGC but not enough to mess with CAFE standards over.

They'll lose a few V8-SUV sales to guys like T4F too, but he still bought from Toyota, and they made more off him in the long run anyway.

Toyota doesn't sell anything diesel in the U.S. do they?

 

[tlflow]

Power

Now that Gadget has a 5th gen, it will not be long before the power-crazed will be satisfied.

Gadget's Build Thread - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

'5. 2010 4Runner TE Will be supercharged in April'

 

[TOYSTRY]

Now that Gadget has a 5th gen, it will not be long before the power-crazed will be satisfied.

Gadget's Build Thread - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

'5. 2010 4Runner TE Will be supercharged in April'

Yep and I'm in line to get one as soon as he's got one for available......can't wait.

 

[philsey]

Yep and I'm in line to get one as soon as he's got one for available......can't wait.

Interested.... but I struggle with how this will effect my warranty.

 

[rlinger]

Super Charger?

Do you think a SuperCharger is or would be available for this 2010 SR5 V6?

 

[TRDSmokedU]

go test drive an lx if you want to feel power and punch. unreal close to 400 hp! there is a guy on lexus forum who was doing 130 in his LX and took a photo of the speedometer. crazy...
Got the LX to 130mph - with picture! - Club Lexus Forums

imho, no v8 will be coming to the 4runner. cafe will be going up to 34.1 mpg in 2016, so it will be prohibitive for toyota to drag down its mpg rating. Hybrids may be in store for the suvs from toyota. it has already started with HL and RX and soon the RAV4. Toyota should get its act
together though and start listening to what people want in a car, suv.


New Federal CAFE standards officially released, 34.1 mpg by 2016 — Autoblog Green

The café standards are irrelevant... The 4.6 V8's gas mileage was identical to the 4.0 in the 4Runner. That argument is out the window. The 5.7 drinks a lot more gas. Again, Toyota has always had multiple engines for the 4Runner. Something has got to be in the works. A hybrid doesn't work for those of us in the mountains. Now if they want to put a supercharger or turbo on the 4.0 that would work. But I would not rule out the V8. Many of us in the mountains need that power for climbing steep grades.

 

[TRDSmokedU]

Interested.... but I struggle with how this will effect my wty / ext wty.

I was wondering the same. I was told that any supercharger other than TRD will void the warranty. Now, why is TRD not building a SC? The rumor is the old 4.0 will be replaced by the one is the 4Runner. You would think TRD would build a SC for the new 4.0.

 

[philsey]

Do you think a SuperCharger is or would be available for this 2010 SR5 V6?

URD appears committed to a 5G SC. One of the pricipals owns a '10 SE, for the stated purpose of this development.

Underdog Racing Development

EDIT: This is what member tlflow alluded to back in post #64.

 

[Hawkdog21]

URD appears committed to a 5G SC. One of the pricipals owns a '10 SE, for the stated purpose of this development.

Underdog Racing Development

EDIT: This is what member tlflow alluded to back in post #64.

Gadget (mentioned above) is that guy. He works for URD, and he has 5 other s/c toyotas, so it shouldn't be long until the 5th gen is s/c

 

[DocMT]

Again, Toyota has always had multiple engines for the 4Runner. Something has got to be in the works.

But I would not rule out the V8.

They haven't always offered multiple engines, so don't be surprised if the 5th gen sticks with a V6 as the lone engine offering.

I wouldn't rule out a V8 either though because I think it's possible that we'll see it return eventually.

 

[TOYSTRY]

interested.... But i struggle with how this will effect my wty / ext wty.

wty = ??

 

[philsey]

Sorry ..... "warranty" .....

 

[TRDSmokedU]

They haven't always offered multiple engines, so don't be surprised if the 5th gen sticks with a V6 as the lone engine offering.

I wouldn't rule out a V8 either though because I think it's possible that we'll see it return eventually.

I could be wrong but since my family owned our first 4R in 93 I can remember Toyota offering a choice of engines. Back then it was the 4 cylinder and the V6.

 

[aspade]

The café standards are irrelevant... The 4.6 V8's gas mileage was identical to the 4.0 in the 4Runner. That argument is out the window. The 5.7 drinks a lot more gas. Again, Toyota has always had multiple engines for the 4Runner. Something has got to be in the works. A hybrid doesn't work for those of us in the mountains. Now if they want to put a supercharger or turbo on the 4.0 that would work. But I would not rule out the V8. Many of us in the mountains need that power for climbing steep grades.

The CAFE number that matters to Toyota isn't the number on a 2011 sticker. The test they are required to pass is the 48 mph original - a test seemingly designed by savants who had heard about cars but never seen one - from the early 70s.

That test is driven so slowly that even the weakest engine can idle through it with rarely so much as a downshift. So it drastically overstates the benefit of small motors and tall gearing.

A V8 would do just as well in the real world but when Washington gets involved the real world rarely stands in their way.

 

[DocMT]

I could be wrong but since my family owned our first 4R in 93 I can remember Toyota offering a choice of engines. Back then it was the 4 cylinder and the V6.

I don't know the entire history of the 4Runner, but I'm pretty sure there was only one engine available when they first came out.

 

[dxntxn]

I don't know the entire history of the 4Runner, but I'm pretty sure there was only one engine available when they first came out.

I don't think the 3.slow V6 came around until '88. Only the 4banger was available until then. I miss my 1st Gen!

 

[bigbwb]

Based on Toyotas history from the last 4th gen, might we see a tweaked 4.0L rather than the 4.6L V8? My guess would be they add Direct Injection and maybe the 6spd tranny around 2013 just as they added VVti to the 2005 V8. This benefits them in two ways, adds power maybe an additional 20-25 HP and keeps them competitive, and of course, the CAFE standards stay in check. DI offers increased performance and better mileage.

I don't recall Toyota ever introducing a entirely new motor during the same generation but rather tweaking one of the original ones.

Just thinking out loud here

 

[Uneek]

Based on Toyotas history from the last 4th gen, might we see a tweaked 4.0L rather than the 4.6L V8? My guess would be they add Direct Injection and maybe the 6spd tranny around 2013 just as they added VVti to the 2005 V8. This benefits them in two ways, adds power maybe an additional 20-25 HP and keeps them competitive, and of course, the CAFE standards stay in check. DI offers increased performance and better mileage.

I don't recall Toyota ever introducing a entirely new motor during the same generation but rather tweaking one of the original ones.

Just thinking out loud here

I agree with you that the possibility of an upgraded engine is greater than an entirely new engine.

But seeing the V8 offered is a possibility too, the first gen Tundra saw both the 3.4 V6 and then the 4.0 V6.

 

[Falls]

I would love to have a 4.7L v8 in my 2011 4R/TE.

My 06 4x4 Sport had it and it was one of the best motors IMO . Smooth , torque , quiet , tons of power .

I sure miss it !!!

I am getting used to the v6 better know that I have miles on her. I think Toyota made a mistake taking that engine away from the 4R.