Fuel Mileage Improvement: What I did

I installed my lift and was consistently getting the same mpg after it. I did a tune up and then my mpg has gotten worse. I don't know why. This is what I have done to it.
spark plugs (NGK double ground, from autozone not sure of it mattered)
duralast wires
STP air filter
Toyota fuel filter
MAF and throttle body cleaned
upstream O2 replaced (NGK)
PCV valve I
diff fluid changed
Aerosol SeaFoam to clean carbon
Any ideas on why this is happening?


I would say the duralast wires are more then likely the problem. Only ones iv ever found to run right are NGKs or Densos. Toyotas don't like mainstream aftermarket electrical components (parts store brand, or Bosch).
 
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Hello, i'm a new member, can you help me find your post in the Tune-up section in the buyers guide. ( 4-Ripcord)

Thank you.
 
I would say the duralast wires are more then likely the problem. Only ones iv ever found to run right are NGKs or Densos. Toyotas don't like mainstream aftermarket electrical components (parts store brand, or Bosch).

Tis true. Toyotas can be picky at times. Not saying it won't work though.

I just did a tune up and my MPG's are lower. However, I knew I had a fuel delivery issue. My engine would ping at cruising RPMs (it's supercharged) and after the tune up the ping went away but my MPG's dropped. I attribute this to more fuel flowing like it is supposed to after I changed the filter so I'm not worried.

By the way, there's one major component to saving MPG's that is not listed here. Replacing your stock muffler with a high-flow one will bump it considerably. On the 3VZ-E engine I got 20% better mileage (14 to 17 MPG) and most I've spoken with who have done it with the 5VZ-FE noticed 1 to 2 MPG increase. Borla is a good brand and solid construction, Magnaflow are cheaper but have quality issues. Mine on my Pickup rattles a bit.

Will be doing this one soon on my S/C 4Runner and will post up about it when I do. I track my MPG's on Fuelly.com.
 
I recently added a pretty extensive Tune-up section in the buyers guide. Everything you would ever want to know on how to improve mileage.

I would quote that here, but its pretty long.
Im new to this thread and new to a 04 SR5
Automatic. Im looking for this thread can you message it to me please?

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Im new to this thread and new to a 04 SR5
Automatic. Im looking for this thread can you message it to me please?

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Welcome new buddy, you are in the 3rd Gen section, but that's okay, we can't fault you for buying what you did :bigok:

The thread in question is http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/82033-3rd-gen-4runner-buyers-guide.html by our own [MENTION=57546]4-Ripcord[/MENTION] (a 3rd gen giant)

And the post referred to is Post 7

Congrats on your 04 and welcome to the family, cousin :thumb:
 
Im new to this thread and new to a 04 SR5
Automatic. Im looking for this thread can you message it to me please?

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Look two posts above yours on this thread, click on the blue hyperlink called Buyer's Guide. It is for 3rd gen's though, but the tune up will probably be similar.
 
Welcome new buddy, you are in the 3rd Gen section, but that's okay, we can't fault you for buying what you did :bigok:

The thread in question is http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/82033-3rd-gen-4runner-buyers-guide.html by our own [MENTION=57546]4-Ripcord[/MENTION] (a 3rd gen giant)

And the post referred to is Post 7

Congrats on your 04 and welcome to the family, cousin :thumb:

You beat me to it, I was typing my response, while at work, and got interrupted for a few minutes!
 
On Topic

The "old way" was to drive with a vacuum gauge in the cab and keep the needle in the green, yes I'm that old. Basically you learned to keep your foot out of it and and eventually, by watching the needle, you realize that OD is not always gas-friendly.

I've got a mild 2" suspension lift and run stock 265/70R16s. I know this was the stock size on my truck because the factory spare is that size. I drive a mix of city, highway and long distance. Like has been mentioned in this thread, I do my maintenance. I keep my fluids and plugs fresh, used NGK plugs and wires, consistent tire pressure, and clean my MAP and air filters with cyclical regularity. I get pretty consistent gas mileage too, and I know that my driving style has a lot to do with it - both in how aggressive I drive and how much stop driving I encounter.

My Average MPG
City MPG is 14-17 (stop and go BS)
Highway MPG is 16-19 (this is more of a mix of city and highway)
Long Distance MPG is 19-21, sometimes more if the wind is in my favor Lol

I drive from LA to Reno once or twice a month, that's 468 miles door to door one way. The longest single stretch I do on one tank of gas is 323 miles from Mohave, CA to Gardnerville, NV. I used to sweat stretch that but not anymore.

For me the trick is cruise control. I set my cruise at about 2,300 RPM (which is around 73-75 MPH) and my downshifts take me to around 3,400 RPM on hills. I click OUT OF OD on all hills; both up and down just like driving with a vacuum gauge taught me to. Why? Because OD on a hill is allowing power to literally slip through the torque converter, and your transmission works harder because if it and gets hot. Driving with a trans temp gauge will show you this and will actually help you use fuel more economically if you favor your transmission, and let a few smaller cars pass you on uphills, if your ego will allow it.

Other than adjusting your driving style and giving your vehicle what it needs, the only other thing you can do is lighten your load and remove excess weight and drag from the vehicle. It takes more power to pilot a heavier vehicle around and that cost of that is more fuel. Don't be surprised that your heavily armored crawler is a gas hog. Don't be surprised that your 6" lifted rig on 35s cuts through the wind like a brick through jello.

There is no preach in this piece, just my experience. Sharing is caring :painkiller: be careful out there.
 
I changed the Oxygen Sensor upstream before the cat on mine and I'm seeing a huge improvement!

Curious about which brand of Sensor you went with. Wondering if it's necessary to go for OEM front sensor vs a 3rd party considering the big difference in cost.

Currently getting 12-13 mpg in the city. Formerly was getting 16+ city 18-20 hwy.

Looking to improve mpg.


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1997 3.4L V6 4WD Limited 4Runner, 185,000 miles. Mostly city driving.
 
Curious about which brand of Sensor you went with. Wondering if it's necessary to go for OEM front sensor vs a 3rd party considering the big difference in cost.



Currently getting 12-13 mpg in the city. Formerly was getting 16+ city 18-20 hwy.



Looking to improve mpg.





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1997 3.4L V6 4WD Limited 4Runner, 185,000 miles. Mostly city driving.
You wanna go with a Denso sensor. You can buy them on Amazon or other sources online, like RockAuto. They are legit, they just don't say "TOYOTA DENSO" as they only say "Denso"

I have firsthand experience with both and they are just fine to use. Especially considering they're the oem unit for our trucks.

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Curious about which brand of Sensor you went with. Wondering if it's necessary to go for OEM front sensor vs a 3rd party considering the big difference in cost.

Currently getting 12-13 mpg in the city. Formerly was getting 16+ city 18-20 hwy.

Looking to improve mpg.


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1997 3.4L V6 4WD Limited 4Runner, 185,000 miles. Mostly city driving.

Typically the OEM Denso brand sensors give the best voltage readings and response rates to the ECU, not to mention they last a very long time. I would suspect the usual culprits if you've lost significant fuel mileage:

New air filter - $15
Clean Mass Air Flow sensor with carb cleaner (focus on the wires inside) - $5
New spark plugs if needed - $25
New spark plug wires - $40
Since you have a 97, a new front Oxygen sensor. They are roughly $50.
Check and fix any cracked hoses and vacuum leaks - $free-$10

Doing these maintenance items should greatly increase your mileage back to where it should be. At 12 MPG, you'll save all your money back and then some in less than a year, possibly in only a few months.

1998 TOYOTA 4RUNNER 3.4L V6 Oxygen (O2) Sensor | RockAuto - link to oxygen sensors for 96-98 4Runners. You'll want to choose the manual or automatic upstream sensor. You can also buy whatever other parts you'll need for very cheap from Rockauto.com such as the spark plugs and plug wires under the Ignition section.
 
Stay away from ebay and Amazon... way to much Chinese counterfeits parts on there. Buy from ledgit sources only. Rock Auto is a great source. :)

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