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V8 SR5, Sport and Limited are 4H and L4 switch selections only meaning you are in fulltime 4wd mode all the time. The V6's on the other hand have the 2H selection on the multi-mode switch.
 
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ALLEGRO said:
It's actually a complicated AWD system more than a traditional 4WD.

Not even close to a Full time 4x4. AWD is very different . Also they do not use a transfer case.

I really wish I had a 2wd selector , but have got very comfortable with the full time 4x4 system and like it.
 
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Falls said:
Not even close to a Full time 4x4. AWD is very different . Also they do not use a transfer case.

I really wish I had a 2wd selector , but have got very comfortable with the full time 4x4 system and like it.

The transfer case is where the locker is. Other than the re-direct to the front diff, the only purpose of the AWD transfer case is for the locker.
 
So Im confused about this 4 wheel drive system. I am quite familiar with traditional 4 wheel drive systems and car mechanics in general so if someone could go into the specific mechanics of how this full time 4 wd works I would greatly appreciate it. I am looking into buying a v8 4th gen for a capable off road vehicle with lift and tires in mind so I need to know the details.

So what I thought:
open/limited slip solid rear
IRS open front
transfer case with in dash 4hi 4lo 2hi options

Would really like to have this cleared up. Thanks
 
stanglover37 said:
So Im confused about this 4 wheel drive system. I am quite familiar with traditional 4 wheel drive systems and car mechanics in general so if someone could go into the specific mechanics of how this full time 4 wd works I would greatly appreciate it. I am looking into buying a v8 4th gen for a capable off road vehicle with lift and tires in mind so I need to know the details.

So what I thought:
open/limited slip solid rear
IRS open front
transfer case with in dash 4hi 4lo 2hi options

Would really like to have this cleared up. Thanks


Remember old school, full-time 4wd, NP203 transfer cases? It's like that. Instead of the NP203's traditional 'open-diff' it uses a Torsen diff. You can push diff lock and it locks the t-case (Front to Rear) and that makes it like an old school t-case in 4hi or 4lo.

The axles are open diffs. It uses a brake assist provided by the ABS to produce "limited-slip like" characterstics. The brake pinches the spinning wheel forcing the torque to go to the other wheel, presumably that wheel has some traction. There's an extra layer of traction control that lays on top of this... It cuts the engine power to aid in maintaining traction. The power robbing aspect of the system is defeated when the center diff is locked (or the VSC off button is push on an '08 or '09).

Here's some good reading that'll explain it further.

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with as much torque and power as these V8's have, I think the vehicle needs the awd system to prevent you from spinning out and flipping over. I can only image what kind of monster a dedicated rear-wheeled drive 4runner with this V8 would be like.
 
nc211 said:
with as much torque and power as these V8's have, I think the vehicle needs the awd system to prevent you from spinning out and flipping over. I can only image what kind of monster a dedicated rear-wheeled drive 4runner with this V8 would be like.

Tundra's are not full-time 4WD and you don
 
Tundras have a light weight, lower center of gravity, rear end. Granted, anything can flip over, even a Ferrari, but I would think a truck in general would be more stable then an SUV of any nature. I've seen trucks fishtail in mud holes, and SUV's flip in the same mud hole before.

I'm just saying, for my own personal pref, I like the additional stability of awd with the additional punch of these V8's. Just my choice.
 
nc211 said:
Tundras have a light weight, lower center of gravity, rear end. Granted, anything can flip over, even a Ferrari, but I would think a truck in general would be more stable then an SUV of any nature. I've seen trucks fishtail in mud holes, and SUV's flip in the same mud hole before.

I'm just saying, for my own personal pref, I like the additional stability of awd with the additional punch of these V8's. Just my choice.

Lighter weight, especially in the rear like in trucks, will equate to less stability as the rear wheels are the driving force. Why do you think people put weights (sand bags, usually) in the truck beds? It's for traction in snow (or any slippery surface). SUV's have a better weight distribution than trucks, generally speaking.

Also, Tundra's don't have a lower center of gravity. What makes you think this?
 
nc211 said:
with as much torque and power as these V8's have, I think the vehicle needs the awd system to prevent you from spinning out and flipping over. I can only image what kind of monster a dedicated rear-wheeled drive 4runner with this V8 would be like.

In Florida we have lots of 2wd V8 4Runners. The electronic nannies seem to keep them under control... I've often thought what a great vehicle a 2wd V8 4Runner would be. In basic SR5 trim they have an incredibly high bang-for-the-buck factor if you're into towing a boat or small camper but want to own one vehicle instead of a car and a real truck.


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