GMC vs 4runner offroad

anonymousgromers

anonymousgromers

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Ok so just curious here a friend of mine guarantees his 2017 bone stock gmc sierra Denali (besides his weathertech floormats) could out perform any 4th gen 4runner upgraded or not offroad be it snow mud or overlanding.

Though I might be a bit bias since I'm a 4runner guy I think he's crazy, but he's that type of guy that thinks he's always right and if it's not a "dodge or any american" truck its garbage what do you guys think?

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anonymousgromers said:
Ok so just curious here a friend of mine guarantees his 2017 bone stock gmc sierra Denali (besides his weathertech floormats) could out perform any 4th gen 4runner upgraded or not offroad be it snow mod or overlanding.

Though I might be a bit bias since I'm a 4runner guy I think he's crazy, but he's that type of guy that thinks he's always right and if it's not a "dodge or any american" truck its garbage what do you guys think?

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Pretty sure he is crazy....
 
anonymousgromers said:
Ok so just curious here a friend of mine guarantees his 2017 bone stock gmc sierra Denali (besides his weathertech floormats) could out perform any 4th gen 4runner upgraded or not offroad be it snow mud or overlanding.

Though I might be a bit bias since I'm a 4runner guy I think he's crazy, but he's that type of guy that thinks he's always right and if it's not a "dodge or any american" truck its garbage what do you guys think?

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LMAO HAHAHAHA And the fact I always see jeeps and Toyotas and ZERO GM or DODGE on all the trails I've ever been on is explained how? Occasionally you see and old bronco or shorty f150, but that's it. About the only things a GM SUV can do better are grabbing groceries and little leaguers
 
anonymousgromers said:
Ok so just curious here a friend of mine guarantees his 2017 bone stock gmc sierra Denali (besides his weathertech floormats) could out perform any 4th gen 4runner upgraded or not offroad be it snow mud or overlanding.

Though I might be a bit bias since I'm a 4runner guy I think he's crazy, but he's that type of guy that thinks he's always right and if it's not a "dodge or any american" truck its garbage what do you guys think?

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What sort of challenges is he up for? It won't be settled unless proven.
 
I know in gonna get flamed for this but as a current owner of both a gmc sierra and a 4th gen V8. I can say that my sierra is way better in the "snow" than my 4runner.

Example: a few years ago we got a bad storm with almost 3' of snow. The 4runner could not get out of my driveway with 4 lo engaged and the center diff locked.
Put my sierra in 4hi, went around the 4runner w/o breaking a sweat and pulled the 4runner out from its spot.

Last winter my neighbor got stuck with his van on our street. Tried to pull him out with the 4runner because it was the first car in my driveway, could not budge his van, got my GMC , first shot it pulled him out.

now i cant say how they compare off roading but in the real world and real usage my GMC outdoes the 4runner.
 
The types that claim their truck can go anywhere are generally the same ones I pull out of the ditch or drag them off the trails. The most embarrassed ones were always in larger SUV's when I had my Sami - which recovered their over-inflated egos out of a bad situation with ease. During the last few years I owned that rig, most of the recoveries were "Trail Rated" Jeeps - many of which were modified. My light, nimble and properly geared/equipped little rig beat their expensive rigs easily - and they did not like that.

Sure, in some instances the electronics and such on more modern SUV's would probably fare better than the older 4th generation 4Runner, but in reality, not by very much. When the crap really hits the fan, however, the older design will still win in the end. I will say this - despite the weight issue, don't ever think you'd embarrass a late model Land Cruiser, that's a whole different animal.

Sarge
 
inscarguy said:
I know in gonna get flamed for this but as a current owner of both a gmc sierra and a 4th gen V8. I can say that my sierra is way better in the "snow" than my 4runner.

Example: a few years ago we got a bad storm with almost 3' of snow. The 4runner could not get out of my driveway with 4 lo engaged and the center diff locked.
Put my sierra in 4hi, went around the 4runner w/o breaking a sweat and pulled the 4runner out from its spot.

Last winter my neighbor got stuck with his van on our street. Tried to pull him out with the 4runner because it was the first car in my driveway, could not budge his van, got my GMC , first shot it pulled him out.

now i cant say how they compare off roading but in the real world and real usage my GMC outdoes the 4runner.
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you just broke so many peoples hearts haha appreciate the honesty
 
that GMC has a curb weight of near 5500 lbs, compared to a 4r at 4800. 700lbs makes a huge difference in being able to pull someone out but it also is a detriment on the trail..everything has its purpose.
 
In most cases the better driver wins in similar setup vehicles. I've watched experienced drivers in stock rigs out perform guys on 35s with no clue. Go drive both and decide for yourself. Then decide if you want to own a reliable vehicle. If so, the choice is easy. :)
 
hinmo24t said:
you just broke so many peoples hearts haha appreciate the honesty
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Lol. That's a good one.

Like the last 2 people have posted, these vehicls are apples and oranges. Each vehicle is different and has its own merits.

The pickup is a heavier duty vehicle with pulling plower and most likely a better 4wd system whereas an SUV is more nimble, lighter and most likely better on a trail.

We have all seen the people that rave how well their vehicle is anywhere, trail, highway, side streets etc and you are right, those are the ones usually getting pulled or towed out of a median, ditch or on their roof. Over confidence is a good thing sometimes but can get you into trouble other times.

As for the land cruiser, there is not much that can compare to it. Its an overbuilt magnificent piece of hardware.
 
This Is great stuff I'm going to see if he wants to go to a trail but I doubt he will want to go saying "oh I already know my trucks better so theres no point cuz I already know I'd be pulling you out" [emoji23]

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anonymousgromers said:
This Is great stuff I'm going to see if he wants to go to a trail but I doubt he will want to go saying "oh I already know my trucks better so theres no point cuz I already know I'd be pulling you out" [emoji23]

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Best two words I can think of at a time like that: PROVE IT. Hit him right in the ego button
 
OP just make sure you have decent and actual A/T tires before this or he might actually have a level playing field. Tires are everything.

And make sure there is an actual difficult obstacle or two to separate the trucks from the grocery getters on the trail.

And make sure you have off-roading experience since drivers with experience can go way further than those without. Case in point, seeing people crawl their Subaru’s up some pretty moderately difficult trails here in Colorado because the driver understands how to place tires.
 
inscarguy said:
I know in gonna get flamed for this but as a current owner of both a gmc sierra and a 4th gen V8. I can say that my sierra is way better in the "snow" than my 4runner.

Example: a few years ago we got a bad storm with almost 3' of snow. The 4runner could not get out of my driveway with 4 lo engaged and the center diff locked.
Put my sierra in 4hi, went around the 4runner w/o breaking a sweat and pulled the 4runner out from its spot.

Last winter my neighbor got stuck with his van on our street. Tried to pull him out with the 4runner because it was the first car in my driveway, could not budge his van, got my GMC , first shot it pulled him out.

now i cant say how they compare off roading but in the real world and real usage my GMC outdoes the 4runner.
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Are the tires the same on both? It’s not apples to apples unless they’re similar enough and I’m guessing that might be the big difference here.
 
atalarico said:
OP just make sure you have decent and actual A/T tires before this or he might actually have a level playing field. Tires are everything.

And make sure there is an actual difficult obstacle or two to separate the trucks from the grocery getters on the trail.

And make sure you have off-roading experience since drivers with experience can go way further than those without. Case in point, seeing people crawl their Subaru’s up some pretty moderately difficult trails here in Colorado because the driver understands how to place tires.
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Yeah I'm pretty good at offroading have been for years he has more experience With four wheelers but he has never taken a truck or suv offroad also any suggestions for tires I've been shopping around cant find a thread on tires

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anonymousgromers said:
Yeah I'm pretty good at offroading have been for years he has more experience With four wheelers but he has never taken a truck or suv offroad also any suggestions for tires I've been shopping around cant find a thread on tires

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Just my .02, but I'm in love with my Cooper ST MAXX tires. A group of us went out to big Bear in December, 2 had BFG KO2, one had falken wildpeak, and my brand new Coopers. In mud and snow, steady throttle was no problem at all. And the price was nicer than the other options at the time
 
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