thebwlife
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In my case picking up a couple year old 65K Denali for under 40K.
Ill probably try to do a LC next time, but I needed captains chairs this time.
Goodbye 5th Gen 2013 BP SR5... Hello...
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In my case picking up a couple year old 65K Denali for under 40K.
Ill probably try to do a LC next time, but I needed captains chairs this time.
BlacknTan
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I've been hearing that same old saw since the late 80's ...
Fool me once, shame on you ... Fool me twice, shame on me!
4RunnerAU
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Wranglers (not Jeeps in general) hold their value well because they are in high demand, yes. But they're usually an outlier on those vehicles with best resale lists (i sometimes see the mini-cooper too). The rest are usually vehicles from brands with great reputations for reliability - lexus, toyota, subaru, honda etc. those cars are in high demand because they're reliable. Chevys are in high demand too, but they just don't seem to hold their value anywhere near as well as the brands i mentioned and probably because of questionable reliability.
I guess we'll know in about 5 years just how much of a step forward they've taken in the reliability department. And in my experience, it's not their trucks with issues but vehicles like the cruze or traverse etc. to be known as a reliable brand, you need to make all of your cars reliable, not just one or two line-ups. That's why Toyota's reliability is pervasive across the Landcruiser, Hilux, 4Runner, Tacoma, Prius, Camry, Corolla etc. and they've maintained that same level of reliability for generations. It will take quite a bit of time and an initiative across all of their vehicle offerings to improve reliability to erase 30+ years of history of subpar quality in the reliability department. JMHO.
I know they certainly are beautiful the JGC that it is. But problem prone to be sure. Thanks that does make me feel better. I predict between the additional tech and space in addition to towing even with the 3.08 gears and gen 5 small block it will be great to travel in with the family. One of the reasons I took the plunge in the first place. Plus the gas mileage will likely be the same or better.
That is the same impression I got. I won't even mention the Sequoia in the same sentence it just wasn't up to par with the Yukon/Tahoe. I actually feel like just as I did with the 4Runner that this truck is worth the 46K it will cost me.
You are right we will see. I have a feeling it will be acceptable not Toyota good but my 11 year old Bonneville aside of a few lovely GM rattles and regular maintenance has had no problems. It does only have 50K on it but it has been a good car.
You are right but nothing compares to 4Runner and FJ they just hold their value well.
Best of both worlds - now have a '14 TEP and a '15 SLT Sierra with the 6.2. 
Bought the truck with mountain towing in mind as the 4R proved to be a bit of a dog in this department. Have to say that the truck is a beast, but in every day driving around the city, I cannot say it gets better fuel economy. The truck does however offer an endless list of technology and refinement. Time will tell in terms of reliability. Not worrying about resale at this point as have little desire to upgrade either vehicle.
Bought the truck with mountain towing in mind as the 4R proved to be a bit of a dog in this department. Have to say that the truck is a beast, but in every day driving around the city, I cannot say it gets better fuel economy. The truck does however offer an endless list of technology and refinement. Time will tell in terms of reliability. Not worrying about resale at this point as have little desire to upgrade either vehicle.
wfo9
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That is because you have the 6.2 (which is great for towing). The 5.3 gets impressive MPG.Best of both worlds - now have a '14 TEP and a '15 SLT Sierra with the 6.2.
Bought the truck with mountain towing in mind as the 4R proved to be a bit of a dog in this department. Have to say that the truck is a beast, but in every day driving around the city, I cannot say it gets better fuel economy. The truck does however offer an endless list of technology and refinement. Time will tell in terms of reliability. Not worrying about resale at this point as have little desire to upgrade either vehicle.
1engineer
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I didn't take it down, I moved it to the General section. The OP in this instance was saying goodbye to people he may know in this forum after trading in his 5th Gen 4Rrunner.
There is a nice thread going on the new Pilot over in the Off Topic section right now.
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... and that's before you realize that to get the most out of the 6.2, premium is recommended. Still, with the 3.42 gearing (Max tow), it does some impressive acceleration performance while the engine plays an appropriately throaty symphony.
One clarification I would like to make... on the highway, the 6.2 easily manages to outperform the 4Runner in the mileage department. That was surprising to me.
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EEEliminator
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I was in this same boat, we got a Sienna as a second vehicle and don't regret it. Power sliding doors and accessibility vs a SUV, there is no comparison. We both hated the idea of driving a van, my wife was actually getting teary eyed as we were signing papers even though it was her idea. Having owned the van for the last 6 months it continues to amaze me... little things like there is 4' of clearance between the rear wheel wells so I can fit full sheets of plywood or sheet rock in the back and close the rear door. With all of middle row seats removed (which is almost too easy to do) and the rears folded down. My 6 and 4 year old can climb right in and buckle themselves in with no help since there is plenty of room. In the 4Runner the car seats were so close together sometimes they couldn't get it buckled. The 3 zone climate control is nice too. I want to hate it but I can't, there are so many more features that make it so easy and practical to use.
We previously had 3 car seats in the 4Runner and while it worked it was PITA. Even moving the two older kids to the 3rd row was a hassle and you lost all of your cargo area. The Tahoe's don't do much better for cargo once the 3rd row is up and the Suburban's are just way too long for my wife. Parking the mini van is pretty easy and it has a surprisingly good turn radius on it too.
I had a full sized truck extended cab standard bed, while the wife had the 4Runner for a primary vehicle. Getting back into the 4Runner it is so much easier to maneuver and park around town. I do really miss having a truck bed though, I am considering getting a new crew cab Sierra in place of the 4Runner. Still haven't decided yet though, the build quality on the Toyota is so much better. Its the little things that bother me, like the steering wheel controls, outside mirrors, and some of the painted plastic just look cheap in comparison. Considering they are $50k I think they could do a little better, having said that I'll probably get one next year....:behindsofa:
Sorry for bringing back an old thread :becky:
