Ground/Starting issues

CaptainGiggity

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Hello everybody I'm really hoping you'll be able to help me out. I just bought myself a 1998 toyota 4runner and no more than a week after I bought it I started having problems with it. I had installed the stereo that was in my old car in the 4runner and everything had worked fine and I didn't cut or connect anything that didn't involve the cables that went into the connector that goes into the back of the stereo itself. And the day after that I went to start it and all I got was a single click and the power in all shut off. I had assumed that my battery was dead and autozone was able to confirm that for me so I bought another and after I installed it I was still having the same problems. It kept acting like the battery had no charge what so ever to turn the engine over. Out of curiosity thinking it was how I hooked up the stereo I had unplugged the adapters that plug into the original cables that go into the back of the stock radio. And that didn't help anything. So I started digging through some of the threads on here and many people had said that it was a ground and/or bad terminal connections at the battery. The only ground I found was a cable that came off the positive cable that connected to the side of my v6 engine near the oil pan. Cleaned it all and the connections at the terminals but that didn't help. But what it does is before I put the key in it has power to the inside courtesy lights and when I put the key in and not turn it the dinger comes on but right after that when I turn it one click to the right to turn the accessories on it loses all the power and cuts in and out, but if you give it a minute or so it will eventually regain power with the key in that same position, and when I turn it again to the next slot before you crank the engine over the same thing happens. And when you try to crank it I get the single click and I lose all power again. A buddy of mine thinks a ground isn't connected near the stereo and is causing everything to go haywire, since the guy that owned it before me was into huge subs and what not and thinks that connections weren't put back together properly. Thanks to everybody who took the time to read that but any input to help me with this would be greatly appreciated!!!!!!!
 
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Sounds like you may have tripped the anti theft system? Just a thought.

Edit: Reread your post, didn't see that you started having the problem the day after... disregard
 
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I had the same problem..... turned out to be the negative power cable connecting to the battery; the terminal connector had a hairline crack in it that would mess up the connection from time to time onto the negative stud on the battery. Replaced the terminal connector and viola the problem was solved. It sounds like you more than likely would've noticed if the terminal connectors were cracked if you cleaned them all... but its just a thought to make sure you look over.
 
Could a very greasy cable itself cause a bad ground? Because mine is hooked up to the bottom of the engine unlike other peoples who are hooked to the frame. My engine is leaking out the gaskets so there is oil all over the bottom of the engine and the cable where the cable isn't protected by the black sleeve over it. I cleaned the actual connection on the block and the terminal itself but it didn't help. So could the build up of oil inside on the unprotected part of the cable cause a bad ground?
 
I had the same problem..... turned out to be the negative power cable connecting to the battery; the terminal connector had a hairline crack in it that would mess up the connection from time to time onto the negative stud on the battery. Replaced the terminal connector and viola the problem was solved. It sounds like you more than likely would've noticed if the terminal connectors were cracked if you cleaned them all... but its just a thought to make sure you look over.

And I had double checked that to make sure but the connector doesn't have any cracks or what not on it and looked just fine. But thank you for the input!!
 
Could a very greasy cable itself cause a bad ground? Because mine is hooked up to the bottom of the engine unlike other peoples who are hooked to the frame. My engine is leaking out the gaskets so there is oil all over the bottom of the engine and the cable where the cable isn't protected by the black sleeve over it. I cleaned the actual connection on the block and the terminal itself but it didn't help. So could the build up of oil inside on the unprotected part of the cable cause a bad ground?

I highly doubt that oil on a cable would cause that.... Have you checked your starter contacts? I've seen a good number of members here replace/clean them up them to help with starting issues. And if your not very knowledgeable in Toyotas I know there are a few repair threads here on how to get to the starter contacts.

And that's what the forum is all about, helping each other out.
 
I highly doubt that oil on a cable would cause that.... Have you checked your starter contacts? I've seen a good number of members here replace/clean them up them to help with starting issues. And if your not very knowledgeable in Toyotas I know there are a few repair threads here on how to get to the starter contacts.

And that's what the forum is all about, helping each other out.

I took my starter down to autozone today to see if that had been the culprit but it passed the 3 times they tested it. I don't know if its a different story when I hook it back up but i would assume if the contacts were back it wouldn't work period right? And this was my dream vehicle so it's my first one and I'm trying to get the jist of everything. But definitely wasn't expecting this to happen to me a week after I bought it.
 
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UPDATE: So when i go to put the key in now I don't lose power like I did before. I messed the the grounds that I had seen, cleaned them and sanded them down for better connection, and it looks like it helped with that. But now when I go to turn the engine over I'm getting no sounds besides a click that sounds like its coming from my fuse box inside or the one under hood. So I don't know if I'm dealing with a fusible link that blew, or if it's still a ground issue. Any ideas on what it may be?
 
Could that sound be your starter still not getting enough juice? Have you checked the voltage being received by the starter? :confused: I'm just giving general ideas.... Hopefully someone else on the forum could jump in as well. Maybe you could have a fuse or two blown... or have something shorting out near your fuse boxes when you attempt to start the motor.
 
UPDATE: I spent all day yesterday looking it over to see if I had overlooked anything and I probably had the biggest kick in the ass moment ever. When I had cleaned my positive battery cable I only cleaned the part the sits over the post itself and on the outsides of what gets bolted onto it. It never dawned to me to look between the posts that were connected to the part that botls to the battery. And turns out there was a huge amount corrosion that was between all those cables, used a razor blade to roughly clean it to see if anything would happen and sure enough, Damn thing started right up. I never really thought that corrosion could cause that much of a problem but if anyone else has problems similar to this be sure that not only the part that goes over the battery post is clean of corrosion. But everything else that bolts onto it. Any little bit can make a huge difference in whether it works or not. But I really want to thank Dutch-4runner '99 for all your suggestions and help in helping me get this solved!!!
 
I still plan on using a battery terminal cleaner on everything associated with the positive cable and get it cleaned off so I won't have to deal with this again.
 
No problem brotha, those kinds of moments have happened to all of us once or twice I'm sure. Now go enjoy the new (to you) Runner! :driving:
 

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