H&R Raising springs with Total Chaos UCA installed

[RooRunner]

Hello Folks,

New to this forum but have definitely used it as a resource since buying our 2018 SR5 4x2 base alittle over 1.5 years ago.


Up until a couple of days ago have been driving around with Bilstein 5100s front (+1 spring perch, lifted the front 1.25" on our 4x2) and Fox 2.0 shocks in the rear. After work on Monday installed H&R Raising (sorry, that's what they call them) springs and Total Chaos (the polyurethane pivot bushing version) upper control arms.

Install went great, without a hitch. The H&R Springs are supposed to raise the car 2" front / 1" rear. It is sitting very level at the moment. Although perhaps it'll settle after some more driving? Also have bigger 17x8 wheels and 285/70 tires en route soon so might be best to evaluate after.

As for actual ride height change - I measured ride height prior to doing the work so next time my wife parks on level ground I'll take the after measurements and report back.

Anyway, privilege to own one of these vehicles and glad to be part of this community.

-=terry
@the_bike_wallet
Irvine, CA

 

[daytonaviolet]

Looks great. Can you measure the hub to fender on all corners. Also are you maxed out @ 2” for the front ?

These should be called adjustable springs

 

[RooRunner]

Thanks Daytona Violet! Just a FYI, installed these at my place of work (BMW repair shop . Will try and take measurements when I get home tonight.

I'm not maxed out in the fronts as the perch is set to the +1 ride height setting. I think it could go up another 1.5 inches perhaps?

Regardless, i'll be back in touch soon with the measurements.

Thanks,

-=terry

 

[RooRunner]

Ride Heights as follows from center of hub to fender edge:
Front = 23.25"
Rear = 23.375"

Bilstein 5100 in front set at the +1 ride height setting...so could definitely go higher (which we don't need, lol).

With the stock springs and the spring perches in the same position, it sat 3" lower in front and 1.375" lower in rear. Of course these are all rough measurements so take it for what it's worth..

Hope this helps,

-=terry

Looks great. Can you measure the hub to fender on all corners. Also are you maxed out @ 2” for the front ?

These should be called adjustable springs

 

[Shooter837]

Good day . How do you like the ride in the car? hard? soft?

 

[RooRunner]

Hi There,

The ride felt a bit stiffer as the springs are no doubt designed for more weight. I have since removed the front and rear sway bars completely and i'm very happy with the ride quality. There is of course more body roll but is a very minor issue as we drive this vehicle very conservatively on the street...

I have asked H&R for the spring rates but have not heard back from them.

Last night I did install Volk TE37-XT wheels on the car though

-=terry

 

[Blueberry faygo]

Hi There,

The ride felt a bit stiffer as the springs are no doubt designed for more weight. I have since removed the front and rear sway bars completely and i'm very happy with the ride quality. There is of course more body roll but is a very minor issue as we drive this vehicle very conservatively on the street...

I have asked H&R for the spring rates but have not heard back from them.

Last night I did install Volk TE37-XT wheels on the car though
-=terry

I got the same wheels, what color you get? I got the bronze ones, just waiting on tires.

 

[RooRunner]

Awesome!! Love the bronze. Always have. We went with Blast Black though. My wife and I both liked BB whereas Ishe didn't like the bronze at all We chose the M-Spec variation.

We went with 17x8 et0 x 5, what about you?

Just installed 285/70R17 KO2s...the lower load rating one that weighs 51lbs. Minor trimming done. The 5th wheel fits in the stock spare location beautifully.

-=terry

 

[acidrane]

Awesome!! Love the bronze. Always have. We went with Blast Black though. My wife and I both liked BB whereas Ishe didn't like the bronze at all We chose the M-Spec variation.

We went with 17x8 et0 x 5, what about you?

Just installed 285/70R17 KO2s...the lower load rating one that weighs 51lbs. Minor trimming done. The 5th wheel fits in the stock spare location beautifully.

-=terry

Nice! Where are the pics?!?

Are you planning on selling the stock wheels? I may be interested. :wink2:

 

[Shooter837]

Why remove sway bars?

 

[Blueberry faygo]

Awesome!! Love the bronze. Always have. We went with Blast Black though. My wife and I both liked BB whereas Ishe didn't like the bronze at all We chose the M-Spec variation.

We went with 17x8 et0 x 5, what about you?

Just installed 285/70R17 KO2s...the lower load rating one that weighs 51lbs. Minor trimming done. The 5th wheel fits in the stock spare location beautifully.

-=terry

I went with 17x8.5 -10.
I didn’t know they had that size.. did you get it through showstoppers off-road?

 

[RooRunner]

Sorry for delayed response. Been moving the past few days... so depressing, lol.

Would love to sell the old wheels. Just make me a fair offer. Im in OC . They weren't stock on our SR-5. We upgraded to them from Toyota (TRD Gunmetal).

Pics coming up soon.

Blueberry. I bought them from EAS in Anaheim. I think you got the right size. Your probably looks more aggressive in terms of offset.

Back to moving.

Terry

 

[RooRunner]

Finally got WIFI set up in this bloody cave of an apartment, lol. Pics as promised

 

[Royal Guard]

That setup looks good

 

[RooRunner]

Thanks Royal Guard! Wish I got to see it more often. My wife drives it. I just work on it, lol.

-=terry

 

[RooRunner]

3D-printed some center caps for the Rays/Volk TE37XT wheels..

I ordered one center cap from ShowStoppers (nice guys) to see how it would look. This is the official offering from Rays/Volk for the Blast Black TE37-XT wheel. Not a good match and also very busy looking. I went ahead and modeled up a center cap and printed it out. Had somebody make some decals. Cheap solution. Not that weight is important, but the 3D-printed cap weighs 40 grams whilst the Factory Rays/Volk cap weighs 89 grams.

Hope everybody reading is good and healthy. Stay safe and hope to meet some of you soon.

-=terry

 

[chef744]

Hello Folks,

New to this forum but have definitely used it as a resource since buying our 2018 SR5 4x2 base alittle over 1.5 years ago.


Up until a couple of days ago have been driving around with Bilstein 5100s front (+1 spring perch, lifted the front 1.25" on our 4x2) and Fox 2.0 shocks in the rear. After work on Monday installed H&R Raising (sorry, that's what they call them) springs and Total Chaos (the polyurethane pivot bushing version) upper control arms.

Install went great, without a hitch. The H&R Springs are supposed to raise the car 2" front / 1" rear. It is sitting very level at the moment. Although perhaps it'll settle after some more driving? Also have bigger 17x8 wheels and 285/70 tires en route soon so might be best to evaluate after.

As for actual ride height change - I measured ride height prior to doing the work so next time my wife parks on level ground I'll take the after measurements and report back.

Anyway, privilege to own one of these vehicles and glad to be part of this community.

-=terry
@the_bike_wallet
Irvine, CA

Hi RooRunner!

How do you find the H&R springs after running them a couple of months? Have you taken them off road?

 

[RooRunner]

Hi Chef!

Liking them although if I had any negative feedback I feel that they are too stiff. But this might be a moot concern due to us being a 4x2 and not having a lot of equipment as the heavy duty overlander / offroader might have. I have even removed the sway bars completely (actually really liking the way it feels after doing this), but they feel still a wee bit too stiff to me. Perhaps I don't know any better and an expecting beach ball plushness sometimes, lol.

As to when I feel they are too stiff... just on on road driving/commuting. I.e. feels like over-inflated tires or run-flats sometimes on sharp impacts on the road (i.e. road perforations, even going into driveways/shopping centers). Has behaved very well off-road for us. I think this is where our rig shines with the lack of swaybars and fairly stiff springs. I think they work well together during the offroad excursions my family and I go on. However to know for sure I'd have to try other springs to fairly judge.

If I had a 4x4 and some decent added weight...I'd run these springs in a heartbeat. In the meantime I think we'll have to buy a nice heavy steel rear bumper and winch for the front

-=terry

 

[10Ten]

I ordered one center cap from ShowStoppers (nice guys) to see how it would look. This is the official offering from Rays/Volk for the Blast Black TE37-XT wheel. Not a good match and also very busy looking. I went ahead and modeled up a center cap and printed it out. Had somebody make some decals. Cheap solution. Not that weight is important, but the 3D-printed cap weighs 40 grams whilst the Factory Rays/Volk cap weighs 89 grams.

Hope everybody reading is good and healthy. Stay safe and hope to meet some of you soon.

-=terry

hey [MENTION=414243]RooRunner[/MENTION],

i have placed my order and am waiting for a set of the same wheels, 17x8.5 et-10 M-Spec in Blast Black... also from ShowstopperUSA. i expect about 2-4 months of waiting.

i also ordered the same caps you did, but i'm not committed to them. i've been looking for a solution like you made. so... you know what i'm asking, right? are you willing to print a set if i pay you for the effort and resources? it appears there's only once large PCD cap available and it's not a beauty, but your version is pretty much spot on. let me know when you get a chance, please. and thank you.

 

[RooRunner]

hey [MENTION=414243]RooRunner[/MENTION],

i have placed my order and am waiting for a set of the same wheels, 17x8.5 et-10 M-Spec in Blast Black... also from ShowstopperUSA. i expect about 2-4 months of waiting.

i also ordered the same caps you did, but i'm not committed to them. i've been looking for a solution like you made. so... you know what i'm asking, right? are you willing to print a set if i pay you for the effort and resources? it appears there's only once large PCD cap available and it's not a beauty, but your version is pretty much spot on. let me know when you get a chance, please. and thank you.

Sorry I never responded. Not sure if you emailed me. My job these days has me away from the computer unfortunately.

Were you able to find a solution regarding the center caps?