I was wondering if anyone has used E3 diamond fire spark plugs in their 4.7?
If there is a OEM replacement NGK. I found NGKs last longer then Denso.
Koz
think ill stick with the stock denso. Any good upgrade plugs from them. Will i get any better gas mileage. Its got 73,xxx mile now
Your at over 120k miles??
Denso's are good for 120k, the v8 is designed around an entire Denso ignition system (hardware and software) Replace with Denso.
I changed my plugs on my 98 3.4 PreRunner at 50K miles. When I pulled the first plug I couldn't help but notice that it was in NEW condition. So I take out the other two on the left bank and when I took out the first one on the right bank I noticed the plug was worn noticeably more then the other three. At this point I start to get that shitty feeling of something being wrong. After taking out the last two plugs I noticed the right bank of plugs are all showing ware and the left bank is looking new. So I'm thinking why, maybe there is an ignition problem! Then noticed the plugs were different, yes 3 NGKs and 3 Denso. Apparently this was done at the factory. The NGKs were like new and the Denso's were worn. Moral of the story; NOT ALL PLUGS ARE CREATED EQUAL!
Koz
Your not even talking about the same engine or the same plugs for that matter....the V8 comes from the factory with 8 Denso plugs.
Two different plugs were used in the same engine, it doesn't matter what engine proves that one plug is better then another. The NGKs were like new and the Denso's were noticeably worn. That's like saying your vehicle came with Dunflops, so they are better. You can use whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy but the purpose of these forums is to get personal experiences from people who have used other products and give their opinion. Many other people will tell you NGKs are the best plugs on the market and from the 20 years I have been using them, I agree! If you can provide an experience that shows one product is better then another, with an open mind I will consider its use. I certainly don't solely believe a manufacture's claim of how good their product is.
Koz
Congratulations, your scientific findings/results on your old 4runner leave little proof or application for the new 4runner.
Thats like testing drugs in rats and saying they're fine for humans.
Two different plugs were used in the same engine, it doesn't matter what engine proves that one plug is better then another. The NGKs were like new and the Denso's were noticeably worn. That's like saying your vehicle came with Dunflops, so they are better. You can use whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy but the purpose of these forums is to get personal experiences from people who have used other products and give their opinion. Many other people will tell you NGKs are the best plugs on the market and from the 20 years I have been using them, I agree! If you can provide an experience that shows one product is better then another, with an open mind I will consider its use. I certainly don't solely believe a manufacture's claim of how good their product is.
Koz
The 3.4L engine used both NGK on one bank and Denso on the other bank. However, they're NOT the same type as the Denso copper only cost around $1.19 per pop while the NGK is around $6.XX per pop at the local Toyota dealer. Why Toyota did it in the first place? I don't know and there's never a good answers from those folks at Toyota dealer seems to be a correct answer. So, can we use all NGK for both banks? They said: You can try but they don't recommended so we stick with whatever Toyota recommended. We have three 4Runners with the 3.4L from 98-2000 model years and they all have NGK on one side and Denso on the other. Yes, the Denso plugs always look a little worn compare to the NGK, but then again they're totally different type/ heat range and price. Hope this help
The purpose of forums is to give experiences and opinion. If you are saying Denso plugs are better then NGK without ANY facts, that’s your opinion. There is no reason to be sarcastic or condescending about someone else’s experience (or difference of opinion).
By the way a PreRunner is not a 4Runner, it is a Taco.
Koz