steezemcqueen
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Whatever you do, DO NOT TRY TO VACUUM OUT FLAMMABLE LIQUID!!!
The motor in the vac will make it go BOOM!!
The motor in the vac will make it go BOOM!!
Help please - serious problem - need sugestions!
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SgtAbn
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Update 2
Hi Guys,
I tried to post a update last night but every time I tried to go to this site I was routed to some BS site called something like "jforjustice.co.uk". It even happened to me with a different browser. Did this happen to anyone else? I ran a full security scan of my pc and it was clean.
Anyway, the WD-40 soaking it over night loosened it a little. Rubber is only around the base of the plug and is just enough to stop a socket from getting on there. I took a picture and it is actually more legible than I thought it would be. You can see in the picture that the plug is clean except around the base of the plug where the rubber debri is hiding the base of the plug that the socket goes on.
I worked at it for several hours from everything from needle nose pliers, screw driver (too big), dental pics (too short), coat hanger (bends too much) and made some progress but not much. So last night I put enough "Goof Off" in there to cover the rubber over night, hoping it would dissolve it.
Today I am going to try to scrape it with the Goof-Off still in there and then shop vac out the Goof-Off, blow it out with air and continue scraping. I also am going to remove another plug and see if the heat shield tube that lines the hole will come out with the plug removed. If it will I am going to use what I call a "rescue socket" by Irwin that has teeth on it for rescuing a stripped bolt, maybe it will cut through the rubber enough to break the plug free. If it will then I am going to stop as soon as I get it broke loose and blow the hole out again with air before removing the plug from the threads. Then remove the plug and the heat shield and replace it with another shield. I really don't want to pull that valve cover.
Hi Guys,
I tried to post a update last night but every time I tried to go to this site I was routed to some BS site called something like "jforjustice.co.uk". It even happened to me with a different browser. Did this happen to anyone else? I ran a full security scan of my pc and it was clean.
Anyway, the WD-40 soaking it over night loosened it a little. Rubber is only around the base of the plug and is just enough to stop a socket from getting on there. I took a picture and it is actually more legible than I thought it would be. You can see in the picture that the plug is clean except around the base of the plug where the rubber debri is hiding the base of the plug that the socket goes on.
I worked at it for several hours from everything from needle nose pliers, screw driver (too big), dental pics (too short), coat hanger (bends too much) and made some progress but not much. So last night I put enough "Goof Off" in there to cover the rubber over night, hoping it would dissolve it.
Today I am going to try to scrape it with the Goof-Off still in there and then shop vac out the Goof-Off, blow it out with air and continue scraping. I also am going to remove another plug and see if the heat shield tube that lines the hole will come out with the plug removed. If it will I am going to use what I call a "rescue socket" by Irwin that has teeth on it for rescuing a stripped bolt, maybe it will cut through the rubber enough to break the plug free. If it will then I am going to stop as soon as I get it broke loose and blow the hole out again with air before removing the plug from the threads. Then remove the plug and the heat shield and replace it with another shield. I really don't want to pull that valve cover.
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HiluxHunter
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Drcoffee
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If you get desperate, this is what I would do. Take your spark plug socket and grind teeth into the bottom of it. Then with the ratchet turn the socket on the rubber until grinds it out and let's you get to the hex head. Then use a vacuum to suck out the bits before removing the plug. Where there's a will, there's a way.
Shawn5800
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This happened to me also. Me and a couple of my fellow engineers from work used this method.
Set up my socket w/extension. Grabbed my torch, heated up the socket to a good temperature and slid it down over the plug pushing the heat into the rubber. Repeat until you can fully encase the plug then try to break the seal. It looks like you have alot of material in there so i would use the heat method followed by a scrape/ then vacuum to ensure that you are making progress and not compacting the material.
Set up my socket w/extension. Grabbed my torch, heated up the socket to a good temperature and slid it down over the plug pushing the heat into the rubber. Repeat until you can fully encase the plug then try to break the seal. It looks like you have alot of material in there so i would use the heat method followed by a scrape/ then vacuum to ensure that you are making progress and not compacting the material.
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SgtAbn
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final solution - WHAT WORKED for me.
Hi Guys!
I want to say thanks again for all of your help with my T4R spark plug boot issue. I just cant believe how many of you took the time to offer suggestions - THANK YOU!
The problem is solved - much to the gracious efforts of all of you. After my last update on this issue I reported that I put enough "Goof-Off" in the spark plug recessed tube to cover the rubber/silicone in there that was dry rotted on PRESUMABLY BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OWNER DID USE DIALECTRIC (SP?) GREASE on the plugs and the wires where they meet.
I have to say thanks especially to the guy that tried to save my life by posting "Don't vacume out flamable liquid with a vacume of any kind." - thank you for your concern, but I used a Rigid tool shop-vac with a 5hp motor and it was fine. - But you did make me get a hose ready!
OK, here is what really worked / didn't work for me:
-dental tools were too short
-spark plug wire removal tool that one of you sent me a link to on Amazon (thanks) was not available at local auto parts stores - but thank you.
-the hanger wit the hook cut into it and sharpened was a GREAT idea, thank you. What I would add to this is that I used a dremel to sharpen the end which was very helpful and I stopped using a cheap white wire hanger and started using a old fashion dirty brass looking hanger which was much stiffer.
Now for the final solution - after I let the "Goof-Off" soak on it over night, the next day I went out and looked at it (pis enclosed) and it was so weird = the goof off was gone! the rubber/silicone that was stuck in there absorbed the entire amount of "Goof-Off" and swelled up like a tampon in water! When I looked in the tube I was shocked to see 1) no "Goof-Off"
2) the rubber was much taller in the tube over night.
3) the rubber was apparently completely unstuck from the tube wall.
So I used the modified hanger described earlier by one of you to pick it out and = it came out in almost one piece - and it was 2" tall! I couldn't believe it! Enclosed is a pic of the rubber after soaking over night in the "Goof-Off", notice how slimy it looks - it came out with out effort.
Thanks again to all of you. you are a good bunch of guys - ESPECIALLY THE GUY WHO CALLED ME ON MY CELL TO OFFER HELP from Alabama - THANK YOU SO MUCH my T4R brothers.
Hi Guys!
I want to say thanks again for all of your help with my T4R spark plug boot issue. I just cant believe how many of you took the time to offer suggestions - THANK YOU!
The problem is solved - much to the gracious efforts of all of you. After my last update on this issue I reported that I put enough "Goof-Off" in the spark plug recessed tube to cover the rubber/silicone in there that was dry rotted on PRESUMABLY BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS OWNER DID USE DIALECTRIC (SP?) GREASE on the plugs and the wires where they meet.
I have to say thanks especially to the guy that tried to save my life by posting "Don't vacume out flamable liquid with a vacume of any kind." - thank you for your concern, but I used a Rigid tool shop-vac with a 5hp motor and it was fine. - But you did make me get a hose ready!
OK, here is what really worked / didn't work for me:
-dental tools were too short
-spark plug wire removal tool that one of you sent me a link to on Amazon (thanks) was not available at local auto parts stores - but thank you.
-the hanger wit the hook cut into it and sharpened was a GREAT idea, thank you. What I would add to this is that I used a dremel to sharpen the end which was very helpful and I stopped using a cheap white wire hanger and started using a old fashion dirty brass looking hanger which was much stiffer.
Now for the final solution - after I let the "Goof-Off" soak on it over night, the next day I went out and looked at it (pis enclosed) and it was so weird = the goof off was gone! the rubber/silicone that was stuck in there absorbed the entire amount of "Goof-Off" and swelled up like a tampon in water! When I looked in the tube I was shocked to see 1) no "Goof-Off"
2) the rubber was much taller in the tube over night.
3) the rubber was apparently completely unstuck from the tube wall.
So I used the modified hanger described earlier by one of you to pick it out and = it came out in almost one piece - and it was 2" tall! I couldn't believe it! Enclosed is a pic of the rubber after soaking over night in the "Goof-Off", notice how slimy it looks - it came out with out effort.
Thanks again to all of you. you are a good bunch of guys - ESPECIALLY THE GUY WHO CALLED ME ON MY CELL TO OFFER HELP from Alabama - THANK YOU SO MUCH my T4R brothers.
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MikeyHarper18
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Hi there, I bought a 1994 Toyota 4runner with the 3.0 v6 and 4x4 Thursday and as I was driving it home I was I the interstate and then out if nowhere it just shut off on me I was thinking it was the alternator but other people told me it was either the timing or the starter but the starter was put on there before I bought does any body knows what's the problem and how to fix it ?
