help with 2010 front pads!

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nicksamtom

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Never did this before but seeing new pads cost $50 versus a mechanic charging $200 - I need to do this myself. I just signed up to make sure everything ive seen shows it to be very very easy... To pins, a retainer clip and they pretty much come out. But thats been on older models, same with 2010?? And refrences or links that can be share specific to 2010 would be great if I need them
 
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Yes, it is very simple.
I would recommend getting a brake pad spreader tool from an auto parts place. It pushes the slave cylinders in to make room for the new, thicker pads.

Some grease for the pins and disk brake quiet are also good to have.

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My third gen has four pistons, two on each side, and while they do move there is plenty of room for new pads and a rotor.
 
I guess I'm super ghetto, but I take a claw hammer with the old pads still in and put the claw against one pad, and pry against the other pad if that makes sense. Pushes both pistons in at the same time, and takes maybe 20 seconds to do it. Then just pop out the old pads, put in the new pads and your good to go. I think it took me 15 minutes a side to do the brakes a couple weeks ago. I hate screwing around with c-clamps and crap, it's a pain.
 
Don't cheap out on the brake pads and get the Cheaper Toyota ones, we're running into a lot of issues with them at the moment and warranting a lot of them while Toyota tries to figure it out...
 
Jeremy556 said:
Yes, it is very simple.
I would recommend getting a brake pad spreader tool from an auto parts place. It pushes the slave cylinders in to make room for the new, thicker pads.

Some grease for the pins and disk brake quiet are also good to have.

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Granted I've not replaced the front pads yet on my 4runner so I might just be missing something here, but how would that spread work with our fixed calipers up front? There's no notch to stick the spread through like on the floating calipers in the rear...not sure if you can fit that spread in between the pistons captain.

The way I usually spread the pistons on fixed style calipers (without removing the calipers and with the rotor in place) is by removing all the retainers/pins and while leaving the old pads in place, take a c-clamp to the top edge of the pad and the outer body of the piston and just slowly compress it; then rinse and repeat for the other side of the caliper.

The trick is to hold the c-clamp a little slanted so that you can get enough surface area on the body of the caliper to clamp against. It helps to have a c-clamp that has a pivoting head like so:

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I've done it this way a few times already on other vehicles and I've not had any issues with pistons popping back out while you clamp one side, they usually stay put for the most part and go back in fairly easy. Not sure if this helps or not, but I've always uncapped the master cylinder to reduce the amount of pressure build up in the hydraulic system while you are pushing the pistons in and the fluid back up and into the master cylinder.

BlackWorksInc said:
Don't cheap out on the brake pads and get the Cheaper Toyota ones, we're running into a lot of issues with them at the moment and warranting a lot of them while Toyota tries to figure it out...
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Out of curiosity which ones are the "cheaper" Toyota pads, I figured there was only one kind, lol.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
Don't cheap out on the brake pads and get the Cheaper Toyota ones, we're running into a lot of issues with them at the moment and warranting a lot of them while Toyota tries to figure it out...
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We are going to need more info than this :) Are there 2 different pads that you can buy from Toyota (one being cheaper)? As far as I know, the stock pads have no issues...Personally I'm very interested! Truth be told, I have some Yellowstuff waiting to swap in, but it would be good to know if there are different "levels" of pads that Toyota offers (besides TRD).
 
BlackWorksInc said:
Don't cheap out on the brake pads and get the Cheaper Toyota ones, we're running into a lot of issues with them at the moment and warranting a lot of them while Toyota tries to figure it out...
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We just started stocking them for a lot of vehicles (I don't know what part number and/or price) so the 4Runner may not have them. They'll be priced closest to like $30 (I believe). We've had a lot of issues with them squeaking and squealing pretty badly with the only solution being installing "premium" Toyota pads instead.

Just something to munch on, I'll see if I can get some more information on them for you guys and the rest of the forum. Honestly though, you shouldn't be skimping out on brake pads anyways; last thing you wanna do is affect your braking performance.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
We just started stocking them for a lot of vehicles (I don't know what part number and/or price) so the 4Runner may not have them. They'll be priced closest to like $30 (I believe). We've had a lot of issues with them squeaking and squealing pretty badly with the only solution being installing "premium" Toyota pads instead.

Just something to munch on, I'll see if I can get some more information on them for you guys and the rest of the forum. Honestly though, you shouldn't be skimping out on brake pads anyways; last thing you wanna do is affect your braking performance.
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Thanks for the update. This is pretty interesting. I wonder if they are doing this to compete with places that offer less expensive break pads? 100% agree that breaks are the last place to be skimping.
 
My gut feeling is these "Cheaper" Brake pads being offered are to compete with the more affordable "Joe-Shmoe's AutoParts Warehouse Emporium" pads (though some are exactly what you pay for to be honest). Somewhere along the line they just don't work right, braking performance is pretty much stock, but after a couple hundred miles (if that sometimes) they squeak, squeal, grind, and make noises that bother customers.
 
My stock pads squealed bad, I tried everything. Replacing them was the only thing that worked. I picked up wagners best pads and the squeal is gone. These new style pads do not need grease or lining to keep from making noise. Must be something new. The best part is they aren't as grabby anymore. Braking is a bit more linear.
 
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