Helpful hints for a Nav install

revlis240

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I will expand this thread (maybe with pictures!) but wanted to contribute my findings. I hope that anyone having questions about a nav install will find some answers here!

Ok lets start at the back and work our way forward.

Back up camera:
My experience has only been with the BOYO VLT400. Others should be similar. The camera basically has 3 wires, a 12v, a ground and the video feed. If you buy a license plate mount (like i did), it makes things a little easier. There are guides here on how to take apart the rear gate, so i wont go into that.

Hints: Make sure you wrap the wire to the camera around the existing wire loom. Inside the gate you will see a black wire loom, i zip tied my camera wire to this. Why? if you dont, its highly likely that the rear window will snap your wire on its way down.

Im attaching a picture of where i fished the wire through. Do not mess with the headliner to get the wire down into the cabin, you can run it through the piller that the back up mirror/pillar speaker is on all the way at the back.

Tap the power to the camera to any +12v at the headunit. I used the wire for my PAC SWI-PS.

Navigation system:

Hint 1: For the Pioneer (im assuming others will be the same) AVIC nav, the GPS antenna can be INSIDE the dash. There is a little tray right behind the stereo where i mounted my gps antenna. I am getting between 8-10 satellites (80-100%) with zero problems.

Hint 2: If you have JBL, be wary of many many connections. For the Avic systems for example, you will need the TYTO-01 (which is HUGE), the nd-BT1 for bluetooth, the SWI-PS to retain steering controls, AND a large bundle of RCA attachments. All of this happens within 5" of the nav unit, so space (for jbl people) is VERY limited. I fiddled for an HOUR trying to make it fit. Eventually i took the TYTO out of its gigangic housing and just wrapped it in some foam to get everything to fit.

Hint 3: YES you can have AUX input into your Avic, just not through the factory aux port. Simply get a RCA to Stereo jack adapter (radio shack) and hook up to the Aux IN RCA on the avic.

Hint 4: The Metra 95-8210 will NOT FIT the Avic z2 without heavy modification. I have seen it fit the Kenwood 7100 but the Avic is just too large and the face will not open if you jam it in there (i learned this the hard way). I had to cut my 8210 to just the sides to get it to fit.

Hint 5: JBL people cannot use the Metra 8202...no where close to fitting in my car. Left .5" gaps on the sides.

Hint 6: The ILL (illumination) Wire can be tapped at ANY of the 3 connectors going to the piece you pull to access the head unit. Its the green wire.

Hint 7: Do not run the reverse sensor switch (to activate the back up camera) to the trunk. Tap into the drivers kick panel, far left of the fuses. Its a red wire with a yellow stripe.

Hint 8: You dont need to pull any panels to get the mic to the roof . The wire tucks into this rubber thing that is between the door and the A pillar

Hint 9: Make sure you dont forget to connect power to the radio antenna. This is the single plug on the same connection as the 2 radio antenna plugs. Only 1 fits into the new nav, and the little plug wrapped in foam needs +12v.

Hint 10: Been discussed before, but VSS wire is purple with red stripe, found in the large bundle of wires right behind the 3 HVAC controls. Any one will do.

Hint 11: Dont forget to take your CD's out of the factory radio. i forget this EVERYTIME. :)

Thats all i can think of for now, i hope this helps somebody!!

Abe
 

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If you have the non-jbl system

it goes quite smoothly.

All you need is the adapter for the 4runner wiring and then to tap into all the necessary wires as descrbed above.

Ive had my avic z2 for almost a year now, I love it.

I have the wheel steering control adapter as well, and that thing sux to install (works good once done tho).
 
Hint 4: The Metra 95-8210 will NOT FIT the Avic z2 without heavy modification. I have seen it fit the Kenwood 7100 but the Avic is just too large and the face will not open if you jam it in there (i learned this the hard way). I had to cut my 8210 to just the sides to get it to fit.

Hint 5: JBL people cannot use the Metra 8202...no where close to fitting in my car. Left .5" gaps on the sides.

Thanks for the post I have a couple questions for you I'm about to put an Avic in My 03 Limited w/ jbl.

You say "the Metra 95-8210 will NOT FIT the Avic.
And you said JBL people cannot use the Metra 8202.

I'm a little confussed what, is the best kit to use then?
Also you say you wired your cammera to a 12v power - That would make your cammera be on all the time wouldn't it? Even if it were 12v ignition your cammera would be on all the time your car is on. I don't want that on mine - I was thinking I could power it with the reverse lights" then it would only be on when being used. Not sure if thats a great idea though - maybee to much power draw? I am suprised to hear that the avic dose not have a power output for the rear view cammera?

Also could you please give more detail on what wire is the illumination wire? Thanks
 
There are multiple reasons for having your camera being powered on all the time instead of just while in reverse. For example, consider someone who hauls a boat or similar. Instead of looking back to check on the boat, they can switch over to rear view camera and check and make sure everything is looking good. You just wire the reverse trigger into the unit, that way it automatically comes up when in reverse and power the camera off switch power.
 
a) you have to cut the 95-8210 to get it to fit the avic Z series

b) i leave my camera on all the time so i can watch my trailer being towed.

c) for the ILL wire, just tap the green wire on the rear window switch on the dash panel
 
revlis24 - thanks for the write up. Do you have any idea if the Metra 95-8210 will work with the Avic D3? The D3 is a standard double din with a fixed face. What prevented it from working with the z-series radio (size or face rotation)? Thanks!
 
The face flip kept it from working, if the face didnt flip, you can JAM the 8210 onto the Avic and it fits pretty dang well (but its TIGHT).

My experience is only with a JBL car though!
 
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revlis240 said:
Navigation system:

Hint 4: The Metra 95-8210 will NOT FIT the Avic z2 without heavy modification. I have seen it fit the Kenwood 7100 but the Avic is just too large and the face will not open if you jam it in there (i learned this the hard way). I had to cut my 8210 to just the sides to get it to fit.

Hint 5: JBL people cannot use the Metra 8202...no where close to fitting in my car. Left .5" gaps on the sides.

Abe [/B]

Hey Abe, how's it going? I was wondering if you have any pics of your modified 8210 installed?
I am running into the same thing with my Kenwood DDX8019 in my '03 Limited w/ JBL - the Metra 8210 trim doesn't fit around the 8019. So my next decision is whether I need to cut just the top piece out, just the bottom piece, or will I need to cut both the top AND bottom pieces out. I got ticked off with it, got my Dremel out and the battery was dead. Then I got ticked with the PAC SWI-JACK which I also installed (sucks it can only control specific predetermined items). So I walked away before I broke something, and I plan on reanalysing tomorrow when I get up. I might just say screw it and cut both top and bottom just so I can get it reinstalled and not worry about it any more. Any tips? Anything you'd do differently if you were to do it again?

Well, my dremel battery will be charged up by morning...

If you get a chance (ANYBODY), I'd really like to see a pic. Thanks!
 
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Hey,
Sorry i cant find a pic of my install. I had to trim both the top and bottom. I MIGHT have gotten by w/o trimming the top. if you want to experiment, i say start with the bottom. If you look at my install and look closely, it looks like crap. I personally dont care about crappy trimming job i did, always been a function over form guy anyway

:)
Abe
 
Hey, no prob about the pic. The morning following my issues, I went back out in a much better mood and trimmed the bottom piece off, then trimmed the top up a bit and it seemed to fit perfectly. Definitely better than the version that just has the two pieces that mount to the side (8202?), in my opinion.
 

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Abe,

This thread was EXACTLY what I was looking for! I am having a professional shop install my new AVIC-F90BT on tuesday, and they asked me a few questions. One question they asked was, "where do you want the GPS mounted?" So, I told them that "when you install the unit, please try and avoid pulling off the pillars to install the GPS antenna outside." The installer said, "I dunno if having the antenna inside is a good idea." Anyhow, my question was "will the GPS antenna get signal behind the radio?" and you answered it...I never knew there was a small "shelf" for a GPS antenna in the dash. This thread should be a sticky...Thanks a million!
 
Does anybody know if Metra Kit 95-8210 will work with a NON JBL 4runner. Reason I ask is the Meta kit designed for my 4runner just doesn't fit great and I don't really care for the look.
 
For Non-JBL. An alternative to the Metra 8202 kit, there's the Scosche TA1465B. I heard some people were dissatisfied with the look and fit of the Metra kit so I opted to try the Scosche. I will be doing my install within the next week or two and will try to post pictures of the finished install.
 
Re: If you have the non-jbl system

madpuma13 said:

I have the steering wheel control adapter as well, and that thing sux to install (works good once done tho).


Where did u get that adapter, and do u have the part number!
Thanks
 
Great information here....quick question:
Where did you grab the wires for the PAC interface, and which wires did you use? Thanks.
 

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