Home Made Adjustable Panhard bar.

NEWS FLASH! I have a SS panhard and the "adjustable" ends are BOLTS with bushings welded to them. Now we can all argue whether or not Steve re-hardens the bolts, or that he welds to the head of the bolt, or he uses a larger bolt. But he does use a BOLT (at least on mine) and I don't plan on that breaking any time soon.
 
im not shocked that this thread is still going, im just tired of seeing it at the top of the list...

glad you decided to get the read deal.

and I wont make fun of how you spell :D but I will forever be with Brian (wabbit) on this one.

Good luck on the continuance of your 4Runner build.

:driving:

John
 
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amen brotha

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just re read through this and wabbit i dont think you should go around the forums making fun of ppl. real PROFESSIONAL bussiness owners (if you are the owner) wouldnt do that because they would want a good reputation. your making a lot of enemies real quick. i wouldnt be surprised if word got around that you were being an a$$ to ppl and you saw a decline in bussiness. just my 2 cents

Brian has a VERY VERY well known business and is a VERY VERY well known builder. Many people trust his engineering and building skills along with his team of EXPERTS. So before you newbs and T4R high school mall crawler junkies wanna go bashing a reputable toyota offroad fab builder do your homework. Who cares if you get made fun of for spelling a word wrong, DEAL WITH IT or learn to spell check.
 
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amen brotha

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just re read through this and wabbit i dont think you should go around the forums making fun of ppl. real PROFESSIONAL bussiness owners (if you are the owner) wouldnt do that because they would want a good reputation. your making a lot of enemies real quick. i wouldnt be surprised if word got around that you were being an a$$ to ppl and you saw a decline in bussiness. just my 2 cents

He is the business owner, and also a Mod over at Yotatech......
 
Well, since the OP got the SS bar anyways, I think this thread can die now. To the OP, you win some, you loose some, but at least you tried. I think you made a good choice though in the end for safety's sake.
 
Brian has a VERY VERY well known business and is a VERY VERY well known builder. Many people trust his engineering and building skills along with his team of EXPERTS. So before you newbs and T4R high school mall crawler junkies wanna go bashing a reputable toyota offroad fab builder do your homework. Who cares if you get made fun of for spelling a word wrong, DEAL WITH IT or learn to spell check.

Still less then professional way to handle yourself, you shouldn't have to "deal with it" its straight up business ethics, i dont care if your 15 or 45, it aint right. Your damn right its his reputation were bashing, he could make the best stuff in the industry (not saying you dont), but him being an A55H01E will make me not buy from him, and make me reccomend to my friends not to buy from him.

Not bashing his work, bashing how he presents and handles himself.
 
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It's good that so many people have taken the OP'S safety into consideration. However, it could have been done with a little more tact. Calling his idea "stupid", and saying that it's a "dumba55" idea, doesn't help him see your side of things. It puts him on the defensive, and makes him want to prove you wrong.

I won't bash Wabbit's work, as I don't have any 1st hand experience with the product. However, as a person that works in a Service oriented industry, I can say that having a bad attitude, doesn't get you more business. Like JohnsD90 said, it could put people off from recommending you for work. You can be the best fabricator in the country, but if people think you're a jerk, you'll only be limiting your business potential. Not that I doubt you have a ton of work, but imagine how well you COULD be doing, with just a little more customer service.

That same attitude, also puts people off of YT. There is a wealth of knowledge there, but everytime a Newbie posts something that the Mods find to go against posting rules, their stuff gets axed?? One thing I'd like to know is why are build threads not allowed in the regular forum, yet there are threads titled "my SAS'd 99 Runner" and "My 96 Taco build! Supercharged 3rz"??

There seems to be alot of favoritism there, and not a whole lot of professionalism by some of the moderators. One might even say, that one should take a page from his own book, and "Lighten up, Francis."

Again, I'm not trying to step on anyones toes here, just trying to get people to see the OP's point of view. I just hope that this post, doesn't get me banned now from YT......
 
I want to remake the uppers, to the same design as the lowers, but the reason we made those bushings was because we were running upper links with heims on both sides, so to change to a bushing we needed on that would thread into the link that was already made.... One day ill get some money and re-do them. all I need a couple feet of tubing, and a pair of bungs.

I made those bushings to see if our issue was a dual hiem link, which it was. They are beefy when seen in person. Those shafts are welded to a dom sleve with 3 passes, and a plug weld from the back. I though about the gusset, but look at the stock uppers....... I know my design is stronger than that 1/2" solid bar tacked to the bushing like the OEM links


Bingo...

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The other thread was axed due to poor choices and rules violations made by the OP.

Poor choises? some guy kept patting him self on the back for being a engineer , yet he didnt understand what zinc coating even was. In every post he mentioned how important he was . But yet he spent most of his day repying to my thread? I love the internet everyones a big shot tough guy. But if we were face to face I wouldnt hear a peep out of anyone.


Heres the sonoransteel bar, Its just a bolt welded onto the head. No one bashes him about it being "weak from heat " Your just way to full of yourself waskilly

http://www.sonoransteel.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_11&products_id=18
 
Bash me all you want. I could care less. Yep. I'm an *******. Most of my best friends will tell you straight up I'm an *******. Especially to folks that are posting up pics about some glorious new mod for their truck that's just stupid and dangerous. No telling how many dipsquats have since gone out to their local hardware store and spent $4.00 and hacked up their panhard bar for nothing. If I've saved one newbie from doing this dumbass **** then ******* accomplished. Seems the OP was smart enough to come to his senses and I applaud him for manning up.

:D

I tend to agree with Brian here. He is an *******!

;):

Seriously though he has a point. A lot of people think that because they go out and buy a welder, that it makes them a fabricator. IMHO, this mod was down right scary to say the least. And, if he can sway someone from trying to do this on their own he should. Its not just about the general safety of the OP, but the safety of everyone else on the road as well.
 
Just for ****s and giggles. Maxspeed should do some destructive testing on that modified panhard bar. Get a jack and place the bar between it and garage door header or heavy tree branch. An start jacking away. It will be interesting to see how it fails. Will it break? Will it just bend?

If it bends then everything was fine. if it breaks then it was a good call.

Inquiring minds want to know...
 
I tend to agree with Brian here. He is an *******!

;):

Seriously though he has a point. A lot of people think that because they go out and buy a welder, that it makes them a fabricator. IMHO, this mod was down right scary to say the least. And, if he can sway someone from trying to do this on their own he should. Its not just about the general safety of the OP, but the safety of everyone else on the road as well.

You have a good point, but he would be more effective at swaying someone away from doing something dangerous by not being snarky and insulting.

I agree with Brian, but he is not helping anyone by saying someone is unintelligent because they made a typo. You can't say you were worried about the safety of others when your concerns are laced with condescension.

Oh well, it's the internet, people will be less polite and understanding than they would be in real life. Take what you can out of this thread, and move on. I hope some people learned something from it.
 
Just for ****s and giggles. Maxspeed should do some destructive testing on that modified panhard bar. Get a jack and place the bar between it and garage door header or heavy tree branch. An start jacking away. It will be interesting to see how it fails. Will it break? Will it just bend?

If it bends then everything was fine. if it breaks then it was a good call.

Inquiring minds want to know...

I'd love to see it put to the test aswell. I'm confident it would hold up, but then again I do not know enough about the tensions and pressures the panhard really has so I can't say for sure.
If I could go back I'd order the end joints like j-money used . But I don't want to wait and my welding buddie is to busy for me to keep bothering him with my projects . So I bit the bullet for the 200 .
 
Gentlemen, I present Exhibit A of why I can not stand to post on internet forums about modifying vehicles anymore.

Dude has bad idea. Dude #2 says, "Cool, but not a good idea." Dude #3 says, "Just do it." Dude #4, who happens to own a business, related to the topic at hand, has many years of experience and KNOWS his stuff says, "You're a doofus and that will fail and kill a million babies." Orginal Dude gets his feelings hurt, Rescue Dude defends him a million times. Blah Blah, you're this - you're that, I'm not buying from him, your mom is fat, blah blah...

Check it - IT'S THE INTERNET. Respect is what you make of it. We're all big guys behind our keyboards anyway right???

Original Dude - That ain't gonna work. Do it right the first time, and your truck won't fall apart at 65mph and kill you and a bus full of nuns...

:0) Happy trails!
 

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