HONEST Treadwright review

Please post a link to this study.

This might have something worth reading Government & Studies - Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau

But yea... retreads on a semi truck... they typically go 200k+ on them so I think the odds of failure are considerably higher. That, and the fact that many see greater road temp/condition variations.

I'm pretty good at getting sidewall damage, nails, bolts, screws, etc. in my tires so for those reasons I'll never be the owner of retreads. Better to buy from discount tire and get road hazard in my case. Knowing that I can bring the truck back over and over again for rebalance and not have to deal with shipping anything back / hauling tires is worth the extra $ to me.
 
I have seen many many retreads blow up, never seen a non retread de-laminate.
Also on a work vehicle I was driving I had a retread explode I count my blessings it was on the rear of the Chevy Express 2500 I was driving! At the time I was in Rush Hour Traffic on CA 880 approaching downtown Oakland a five lane free way with twists and turns at ~70mph. I will never run a retread (Not because of bigoted hatred), simply for me the risk is not worth the savings.
Thank you for creating this thread because it is nice to hear an honest, informed and educated opinion about TW and I hope they work out for you, as far as retreads go they do seem to be some of the best. Give the airsoft bb's a try and let us know how it works out for you. Do you carcasses have a date on them?

Im sorry to hear that happen! im glad to hear your okay :) yeah I drive 90% backroads and the only highway driving is to the desert which is 5 miles away :) im gonna give that a try for sure when I return home,wont be till late January tho :/ yes the carcasses are 2010, I specified when ordering no older than that and they have no patches or repairs of any kind.
 
This might have something worth reading Government & Studies - Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau

But yea... retreads on a semi truck... they typically go 200k+ on them so I think the odds of failure are considerably higher. That, and the fact that many see greater road temp/condition variations.

I'm pretty good at getting sidewall damage, nails, bolts, screws, etc. in my tires so for those reasons I'll never be the owner of retreads. Better to buy from discount tire and get road hazard in my case. Knowing that I can bring the truck back over and over again for rebalance and not have to deal with shipping anything back / hauling tires is worth the extra $ to me.

Yes I believe semis give retreads a bad name that most smaller vehicles don't have the hazard of happening. Yes if I were buying I tire I planned on keep for a longer period of time I will be sure to hit a tire shop with a good warranty for sure :) Thank you for that link!
 
Thank you for writing this up. I recently purchased 265/75 16 Guard Dogs and had a VERY similar experience. Although in my haste, the first balance done was a dynamic balance. As an engineer, I thought that a technological advancement in balancing must mean better balancing across all fronts, I was incorrect. Once I got them static balanced, they rode great. I run 80% of my time on the highway at 70-80mph and the dynamic balance caused me huge vibrations that the static balance cured. I have no issues with vibrations at all now.

Additionally, they had a similar carcass shortage with me and offered me BFG A/T carcasses with their "kedge grip" upgrade for free.

And to your point, would I buy them again? Maybe. They have yet to disappoint me after a few thousand miles. Only time will tell though.

Max
 
Thank you for writing this up. I recently purchased 265/75 16 Guard Dogs and had a VERY similar experience. Although in my haste, the first balance done was a dynamic balance. As an engineer, I thought that a technological advancement in balancing must mean better balancing across all fronts, I was incorrect. Once I got them static balanced, they rode great. I run 80% of my time on the highway at 70-80mph and the dynamic balance caused me huge vibrations that the static balance cured. I have no issues with vibrations at all now.

Additionally, they had a similar carcass shortage with me and offered me BFG A/T carcasses with their "kedge grip" upgrade for free.

And to your point, would I buy them again? Maybe. They have yet to disappoint me after a few thousand miles. Only time will tell though.

Max
No problem :). Man if I could get these vibrations gone I would be extremely happy, who you know if the machine they used was hub or lug centric? Cause I'm having a hard time tracking down a lug centric balancer :(
 
I've had my Guard Dogs for about 15K now. Had them mounted and balanced at Firestone and they have been perfect since. No issues.
 
To put out in perspective you can order a set of General Grabber AT2 for $636 plus tax and shipping, so about $750.

And .... you get brand new tires.

The AT2 is a great tire. I've run it and BFG and can't tell the difference.



I just thought it was good to mention since other members do have the cash to consider.

You paid $520 for tires shipped. Great, I totally understand why that was a good deal. When I went looking at BFG TAs I was quoted $1000 after tax + mounting fees.

Then I found out about the General Grabber AT2 which can be had brand new for about $750 plus mounting fees.

:whoo: There are options.
 
Good luck finding one of those in the valley, I've tried...

Some shops will Road-Force balance (Camelback Toyota was the cheapest I found) but either no-one knows what you are talking about or they don't have the lug-centric adapter anymore...

I haven't bit the bullet yet on the Road-Force because I have too many maintenance parts to buy first and I've paid for at least 3 regular balances already with no results... If I could pop a bead, I'd try the airsoft BBs as I have a few thousand...

Rig looks good OP, same size tires as mine, I have the BFGs (real ones) with over 50K and most of the tread left. (measure about 31.7" new) They are over 5 years old now, so I'm just worried about the life left in the rubber as the previous set that came with the truck when I bought it were OK for tread, but the sidewalls were splitting due to age. That is my only concern with a re-tread. AZ summers bake and dryrot rubber so fast...and the sidewalls aren't new.

Let us know if you get that balance figured out!

Come to me brah, I work at Goodyear Tire and I do them all the time for toyotas. I can probably even get you a discount. You are talking about this adapter right?

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I just thought it was good to mention since other members do have the cash to consider.

You paid $520 for tires shipped. Great, I totally understand why that was a good deal. When I went looking at BFG TAs I was quoted $1000 after tax + mounting fees.

Then I found out about the General Grabber AT2 which can be had brand new for about $750 plus mounting fees.

:whoo: There are options.

oh yeah if someone has the extra cash by all means new tires are the way to go, I didn't mean to offend you in any way :)
 
Come to me brah, I work at Goodyear Tire and I do them all the time for toyotas. I can probably even get you a discount. You are talking about this adapter right?

haweka_adapter.jpg

dude you would be a lifesaver... pm me the shop you work at and hopefully its not too far :)
 
Hey climber good review, good tires, Don't let the haters get you man. I know what its like wanting to get your tires mounted asap, but i cant warn you enough about wal mart. When i get to a new city and i need tire work done i ask them to put the weights on the back. most tire/wheel combos will balance the same with the weight on the back. if the shop cant do it keep on looking. also man you said you aired down to 30 psi, I would think an 8 ply on a 4300 lb truck would be good on road at 30 psi. Not trying to sound like a know it all, just experiment with psi, chalk test and mpg vs ride comfort. every tire is different especially retreads. I have 6 ply cooper at3s on my 98 and i took a while to find the sweet spot with air pressure.
 
Just to add a quick summary of my experience:

I purchased 265/75/16 guard dogs just over a year and a half ago. They balanced perfectly first try and have been great tires. Only negative is that after 26 000 km (~16 000 miles), they have very significant wear. I haven't taken a measurement (maybe I'm scared to), but I'd estimate they are at 60%. They have been rotated regularly as well. This is my first set of mt tires so I dont have a very good sense of whats considered normal, but it does seem like they are wearing quite fast.
 
I purchased 265/75/16 guard dogs just over a year and a half ago.

Cool thanks for sharing your experience, are they the Kedge Grip variety or the normal compound? Also what kind of carcasses are they on? How do they grip on wet roads?
 
Just to add a quick summary of my experience:

I purchased 265/75/16 guard dogs just over a year and a half ago. They balanced perfectly first try and have been great tires. Only negative is that after 26 000 km (~16 000 miles), they have very significant wear. I haven't taken a measurement (maybe I'm scared to), but I'd estimate they are at 60%. They have been rotated regularly as well. This is my first set of mt tires so I dont have a very good sense of whats considered normal, but it does seem like they are wearing quite fast.

Thank you for your expierence! I would like to hear the measurements if you ever get a chance to take them :)
 
Thank you for your expierence! I would like to hear the measurements if you ever get a chance to take them :)

So I went out and took some measurements with a digital caliper and the wear isnt nearly as bad as I thought. There appears to be an average of between 13/32" and 14/32" on all four tires which is just over 70% of treadwrights claimed initial tread depth of 19/32". At this rate, I should be able to get close to 50,000 miles out of them, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is excellent for a m/t.

Yoter: They are the non-kedge grip version on the yokohama D range casings.
Again, since this is my first set of mud tires, I dont really have much to compare to in terms of wet weather driving. I live on the west coast of BC, so the roads are wet most of the time. It's extremely easy to spin the tires when starting from a stop, but in terms of cornering, I have never had a scary experience or anything like that. They are what I'm used to and I have learned to drive my vehicle accordingly.

I did have bfg all terrains in both a 31x10.5 and 33x10.5 on my previous 4runner, but after I totalled it, I was using the goodyear silent armors that came on my current 4runner for a period of time. So without a back to back comparison between the bfg all terrain and guard dog, it's really hard to compare their wet weather capabilities. I can say though, that the guard dog is WAY better offroad than the bfg's.


I regret not weighing my guard dogs before mounting them. People always talk about how outrageously heavy they are, but I don't think they actually are. They are definitely on the heavier side, but i'm betting the difference is only a few pounds. Sure, it's rotational, unsprung weight, which is the worst type of weight to add, but running steel wheels over comparably sized aluminum wheels is going to result in a much greater weight gain.
 
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So minor update, big thumbs up to treadwright, I mentioned earlier that one of my tires required more than the quoted 5 oz and I spoke with a woman Suzanne and she asked for a pic and I sent her one via email, 3 days later I got a shipping notification for a new tire! The one with the weight will most likely go on my spare. BIG thumbs up for treadwright customer service.
 

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