Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.

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...only when he says something that is controversial. In this case, there was no immediate 'I was joking', only later when pressed his people say 'You can't take some things he says literally'. He's done this little trick over and over. He's not trustworthy. He also claimed that he knew a lot about viruses. My ass.

This is why I'll take Fauci's word over anyone on that podium.

You believe Fauci because you hate Trump?

Ok.
 
Today, in the face of mounting evidence, Dr Fauci is saying covid-19 is like a bad flu.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

Last week he was saying it was going to be much, much worse - based on faulty models. Or perhaps models built to help the media generate mass hysteria and authoritarian shutdown of small businesses,

Concerning that New England Journal of Medicine article by Dr Fauci about Covid-19, you seem to have focused on the text where it states “... the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza...”
Therefore you think Dr Fauci is stepping back from his previous stance on how urgent it is, in the face of the latest evidence. (And somehow you presume he deliberately used faulty models to generate mass hysteria).
But if you looked a little deeper into the article, in the Funding and Disclosures section, you’d see that “This editorial was published on February 28, 2020, at NEJM.org.”
So he wrote this sometime before February 28. He is much more concerned about it today. You got it backwards. Let’s strive to be truthful and accurate.

Complaining and trying to discredit scientific experts is of no use. Our opinions are not going to change the national response now.
 
. . .In light of that, it’s best to give everyone a lot of mercy and grace right now, and assume they’re trying to do the right thing.

Agree with the first part, but the second part unfortunately there's mounting evidence of potential bad actors.

For example, SEIU just happened to "locate" 39 million N95 masks right after a Barr conference on hoarding medical supplies.

Union Locates 39 Million N95 Masks for Healthcare Workers, Local Governments – NBC Bay Area

Better late than never though.
 
Concerning that New England Journal of Medicine article by Dr Fauci about Covid-19, you seem to have focused on the text where it states “... the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza...”
Therefore you think Dr Fauci is stepping back from his previous stance on how urgent it is, in the face of the latest evidence. (And somehow you presume he deliberately used faulty models to generate mass hysteria).
But if you looked a little deeper into the article, in the Funding and Disclosures section, you’d see that “This editorial was published on February 28, 2020, at NEJM.org.”
So he wrote this sometime before February 28. He is much more concerned about it today. You got it backwards. Let’s strive to be truthful and accurate.

Complaining and trying to discredit scientific experts is of no use. Our opinions are not going to change the national response now.

If it's been around this long, ever wonder why the media has not picked up on this?
 
Agree with the first part, but the second part unfortunately there's mounting evidence of potential bad actors.

For example, SEIU just happened to "locate" 39 million N95 masks right after a Barr conference on hoarding medical supplies.

Union Locates 39 Million N95 Masks for Healthcare Workers, Local Governments – NBC Bay Area

Better late than never though.
To be sure, bad actors are everywhere. While I don't see an indication of motive in that article, I imagine it could have been wrongly motivated. Nevertheless, I do assume that the majority of people are trying to do the right thing, and I believe that's the best assumption to make. The ones who aren't are those deliberately coughing on the elderly and others, coughing on produce in grocery stores, licking toilets, etc.
 
I laugh at people when that say we need to help contain the virus. What is there to contain???

Seriously. At this point it, the shelter in place is like trying to contain an oil spill that has spread from an oil tanker that cracked wide open and has been spreading for the last 5 months. At that point its no longer containment. Its a clean up!!!
 
I ain't even gonna click on that...

The same people we are told to trust and obey are the ones that bring you 23 Trillion in debt. It's ok good citizens, your share is only a touch over 72 thousand. Well... 190 thousand if we just count tax payers. :whipping2
 
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We are not trying to contain crap. Just flatten the curve.

You cant flatten a curve when you dont have enough tests to confirm if there is even a curve.

Just throwing out number to show an example how the test for the corona virus is being conducted. You have a population of 10,000 people, 3,000 of those people have symptoms but yet only 50 tests. But then the following day you have 100 tests and 100 people are confirmed. So the "infection rate" goes up. Then the day after that you have 200 tests and now 200 people are confirmed and so on.

To actually know if you are trying to flatten the curve, you needed to start testing when it was known that China had it.
 
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You cant flatten a curve when you dont have enough tests to confirm if there is even a curve.

Just throwing out number to show an example how the test for the corona virus is beeing conducted. You have a population of 10,000 people, 3,000 of those people have symptoms but yet only 50 tests. But then the following day you have 100 tests and 100 people are confirmed. So the "infection rate" goes up. Then the day after that you have 200 tests and now 200 people are confirmed and so on.

To actually know if you are trying to flatten the curve, you needed to start testing when it was known that China had it.

Funny how no one ever recovers.
 
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Why I have used Hand Sanitize for years after pumping gas and using ATM's
 

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As a result, NOTHING was in place to fight it when it broke out...

Things were in place. Before 2018 anyway.

An example is what people are referring to as the pandemic response team - actually known as the global health security team in the NSC that Bossert oversaw with Adm Ziemer. Both were forced out in 2018 and the team was disbanded.

A few other examples:
The administration ignored the CSIS report calling for better pandemic preparedness (released in 2019, IIRC)
The administration ignored warnings given upon inauguration during one of the transition exercises about global pandemics (that would have been 2016)

Lots of things have gone wrong. The first batch of tests developed in the US were defective, for example.
But the admin blatantly ignored the need to have pandemic response plans and capabilities in place. Then called it a hoax for several weeks. And that, IMO, is an inexcusable display of failure to lead.
 
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You cant flatten a curve when you dont have enough tests to confirm if there is even a curve.

Just throwing out number to show an example how the test for the corona virus is being conducted. You have a population of 10,000 people, 3,000 of those people have symptoms but yet only 50 tests. But then the following day you have 100 tests and 100 people are confirmed. So the "infection rate" goes up. Then the day after that you have 200 tests and now 200 people are confirmed and so on.

To actually know if you are trying to flatten the curve, you needed to start testing when it was known that China had it.


Here in Hawaii we been getting about 10 a day. Yes I know more probably have it and more will get it because results take days.

But if we stop it from ballooning to 100 a day I will feel damn good that we are flattening the curve. Just because we don't have actual numbers doesn't mean we can't flatten it. Main goal is to keep the beds from being overloaded plain and simple.

If you ask me its not a matter of if but when you get it. Unless you are being like bubble boy.
 
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I went to Costco, Walmart, Bottle King and the Polish Beer Store this afternoon.
I go to Costco at least once a week.
Costco had everything I needed 'cept these Centrum Silver vitamins my wife is always force feeding me.
Walmart probably had 70-80% of its canned goods shelves full.
Nearly got into a fight in the Bottle King parking lot because one of the kids there was explaining to me that they are now "online only" and "pick up in 48 hours" and apparently that irritated what appeared to be an alcoholic roofer. After he put in his 2 cents "'bout your government" the kid and I continued with the conversation.
I used this opportunity to go to the Polish beer store and buy a case of my favorite.
 

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Im aware of 2 families where mom dad and the kids tested positive in a borough several miles form us. I haven't met them. I was told that they said the Chinese Virus is like a mild flu. My crocus are saying "'eff u" to the Chinese Virus because it's warm and they are going to bloom no matter what the government says.
 

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