Hope for the best prepare for the worst.How are you prepping for the covid-19 virus.

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I do trust professinals, engineers, doctors, accountants, architect's etc. This not a political thread so get off and start your own thread don't pollute this thread.

Good for you for trusting those in the public eye, at least those who you find agreeable.

Do we all believe Dr Fauci today?

He claims the new coronavirus is like a bad flu per his article in that esteemed journal posted earlier. That's a massive shift from last week.
 
Good for you for trusting those in the public eye, at least those who you find agreeable.

Do we all believe Dr Fauci today?

He claims the new coronavirus is like a bad flu per his article in that esteemed journal posted earlier. That's a massive shift from last week.

It is like the flu but the way it attacks the lungs is worse then the flu even people on ventilators turned to max, need a blood oxigenation machine to keep them barely alive. flu shots take an enormous effort in identifying new strains and coming up with vaccines by those no named scientist(with different political beliefs) who save countless lives every year. Flu kills people and so does other deseases. The question becomes do we fight it with everything we got or do we let the chips fall and call it fate. Do we listen to the Doctors and scientist or should we listen to some who think well old people or vulnerable will die so be it."we the strong will survive. My personal belief, "whatsoever you did for the least of my brothers and sisters you did for me,”
 
Faucci is buckling under the pressure and I will say, it is a lot of pressure. I am in the medical device industry and in the medical field people want definitive answers. Sometimes there is simply enough information to make one but physician do anyways. Its not uncommon. Im sure in his situation not having all the info, he made it out worse than it really was with possibility that it might not be as severe. As apposed to initially stating what he was probably suspecting as a bad flu. But if he had said that and it turned out to be much worse, he would have been crucified.

Ultimately this all started in China which the only way WHO found out was from physcians fighting the Chinese govenrment censorship. Even then, the WHO had limited info based on the Chinese not fully cooperating at first.

This whole shut down is solely based on the fear of aging politians who this virus mainly affects. Lets face it, they wont be paying the taxes on this bailout so what do they care if the economy gets FUBAR'd.

Edit:Actually I should say most aging politicians. I did hear of an article from a Texas official who is 70 and he is against this shut down because he is fully aware of what its going to do the younger generation.

Beanie said it best:

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It is like the flu but the way it attacks the lungs is worse then the flu even people on ventilators turned to max, need a blood oxigenation machine to keep them barely alive. flu shots take an enormous effort in identifying new strains and coming up with vaccines by those no named scientist(with different political beliefs) who save countless lives every year. Flu kills people and so does other deseases. The question becomes do we fight it with everything we got or do we let the chips fall and call it fate. Do we listen to the Doctors and scientist or should we listen to some who think well old people or vulnerable will die so be it."we the strong will survive. My personal belief, "whatsoever you did for the least of my brothers and sisters you did for me,”

Seems like to better help the afflicted, if certain anti-malarial drugs show early promising signs of helping, that any testing needed to validate that and roll it out should be accelerated.

The good Dr however appears to be slow walking that. But, I don't know how that all works. Maybe you or others know more about it.
 
I'm not getting sucked into this pissing contest.

What I do know is that I've spoken to several COVID-19 patients and the stories have ranged from "bad cold" to "awful flu" to "worst pain I've eve had and wouldn't want my worst enemy to go though this".

As emergency managers and first responders, we need to always plan for the worst and take measures early to slow the spread. At the end of the day you may not know what worked - the social distancing or the normal process of the virus' mutation.

What we do know, is that highly congested areas are hit far harder that remote areas.

I thought long and hard if I should post this and finally figured that a bit of humor couldn't help - regardless of what side of the aisle you are on.
 

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Are you referring to my posts on Dr Fauci? Hard to know for sure. If so, you seem overly sensitive about this person. It's ok to put blind faith in people, but not everyone does so.



Have no idea who you're referring to re: love letters. Seems silly.

Likewise here many people will blindly trust the scientist who appears to be spinning swine flu one way, and the new coronavirus another way perhaps for political convenience. At least up until today that is, where he's changed his tune on the coronavirus - a convenient shift in the winds lol.

Takes literally 5 seconds to looks up. Anyway, you don't remember this?

'We fell in love:' Trump swoons over letters from North Korea's Kim - Reuters
 
Seems like to better help the afflicted, if certain anti-malarial drugs show early promising signs of helping, that any testing needed to validate that and roll it out should be accelerated.

The good Dr however appears to be slow walking that. But, I don't know how that all works. Maybe you or others know more about it.

Hopefully some one with more knowledge would chime in because I don't know.
 
Still waiting for acceptable loss numbers. Was it worth crippling the world economy to crush your political enemy... I mean a really bad upper respiratory infection?
 
Still waiting for acceptable loss numbers. Was it worth crippling the world economy to crush your political enemy... I mean a really bad lower respiratory infection that tortures you for three weeks before it kills you?
Fixed your post for you.

Which political enemy are you referring to - the one in Italy, Spain, the rest of Europe? Iran? the rest of the world?

Did you ever stop and re-read your post to see how stupid you sound?
 
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Fixed your post for you.

Which political enemy are you referring to - the one in Italy, Spain, the rest of Europe? Iran?

Did you ever stop and re-read your post to see how stupid you sound?

Post like these have made me really see how stupid our society has become. People like you either lack basic reading comprehension or are just to stupid to understand what the facts are.

Fact is that the mortality rate is around 1%. Equivalent to the H1N1. If anything the mortality rate is much lower due to the people already suspected to have it or have had it and weren't tested. SARS had a much higher death rate than the corona virus. Thankfully we didnt have social media for people like you.
 
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Fixed your post for you.

Which political enemy are you referring to - the one in Italy, Spain, the rest of Europe? Iran? the rest of the world?

Did you ever stop and re-read your post to see how stupid you sound?

Must be the media panic setting in, but maybe we can nuke 4 or 5 major metro areas to help contain the virus.
 
I'm not getting sucked into this pissing contest.

What I do know is that I've spoken to several COVID-19 patients and the stories have ranged from "bad cold" to "awful flu" to "worst pain I've eve had and wouldn't want my worst enemy to go though this".

As emergency managers and first responders, we need to always plan for the worst and take measures early to slow the spread. At the end of the day you may not know what worked - the social distancing or the normal process of the virus' mutation.

What we do know, is that highly congested areas are hit far harder that remote areas.

I thought long and hard if I should post this and finally figured that a bit of humor couldn't help - regardless of what side of the aisle you are on.

:lmao:
 
Lol per your link it was said as a joke.

...only when he says something that is controversial. In this case, there was no immediate 'I was joking', only later when pressed his people say 'You can't take some things he says literally'. He's done this little trick over and over. He's not trustworthy. He also claimed that he knew a lot about viruses. My ass.

This is why I'll take Fauci's word over anyone on that podium.
 
Trying To Be Level-Headed About This

There seem to be some folks on here who are certain that the measures being taken are inappropriate. We’re either over-reacting or under-reacting, depending on who’s talking. The doctors aren’t qualified, or they’re dishonest, or they’re political (a necessity, by the way), or you name it. Some think we’re being sold a bill of goods, and that an underlying agenda is at the heart of all this. Honestly, some seem to discount virtually everything that’s being done to slow the infection rate, as if they have better answers.

There are also some who appear to want to apply themselves to the efforts being taken and recommended. They seem to agree that, since there is a real problem that needs to be addressed, we all need to do our part. They place their trust in those appointed and elected to be at the front when serious things happen. I put myself in this group.

I’m not blind, and I get it that politics sometimes (often) plays too big a part in our lives. Heck, look at the crap that people had to force into the 2.2-trillion-dollar bill to get it to pass (almost). That is BS, but it’s also politics, and has happened for millennia. While I don’t like it, I’m wasting my breath to criticize it in the middle of the fight. That only serves to divide.

The people who are in positions of authority in this fight – Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, the President, governors, mayors, I can’t name them all – need to be trusted and heeded. Those people are smarter, more experienced, and wiser than many of us, and they’re in positions of influence. I’m fairly certain that not one of them is saying, “Oh goody – a brand-new pandemic to fight 24/7 for months!” Their lives were arguably much more peaceful than they are today. If I had to deal with some of the crap they have to put up with – politely, mind you – I would take immediate early retirement. I don’t need that s**t, and I’m sure they don’t either. Personally, I’m thankful that they’re slugging this out.

I’m an older-school-of-thought type of person. The way I see things, a unified population is what’s needed when there’s a war going on. At its best, complaining during the battle only serves to demoralize the hearers, even if just a little. The complainers are doing their own side a disservice. They certainly aren’t helping to win the fight.

One thing that some people seem to miss is that this is the FIRST TIME we’ve encountered this specific disease. As a result, NOTHING was in place to fight it when it broke out. We’re trying to develop responses now, but as far as I know, we’ve yet to find a cure for even one virus. In light of that, it’s best to give everyone a lot of mercy and grace right now, and assume they’re trying to do the right thing.
 
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