Could be, but not sure I agree. There's an engine/tranny-based vibration in the lever, and you can distinctly feel it change when you go into 4H and/or 4L. And I'm not sure why Toyota would bother doing something that probably would cost even more money (a series of levers and dash panels) when a button would be cheaper.
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Could be, but not sure I agree. There's an engine/tranny-based vibration in the lever, and you can distinctly feel it change when you go into 4H and/or 4L. And I'm not sure why Toyota would bother doing something that probably would cost even more money (a series of levers and dash panels) when a button would be cheaper.
It is a lever that has a connection to the TC, but it is still all actuated to the front. It still feels better than turning a knob.
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I've had a pretty good variety of 4X4 vehicles over the past 40 years (six I think). I did lots of readying before they had the internet. I can remember a time when I had no idea what a "Hi-Lift" jack was and had to ask.
Since then, I have run into numerous folks just getting into 4X4s and have had to answer most of the same questions I have asked over the years.
The manual for the current T4R confused the heck out of me. What works in 4H vs 4L? Which modes of Multi-Terrain work with which modes of Crawl Control. When does the Rear Locker actually lock? When does A-TRAc work and what does it actually do? What WON'T work in all of those modes?
Even had to make my own spreadsheet to sort it out and keep it in the glove box.
Not to mention several of the 4X4s I purchased used or at auction that did not come with an owner's manual.
I don't mind the more "basic" questions.
Since then, I have run into numerous folks just getting into 4X4s and have had to answer most of the same questions I have asked over the years.
The manual for the current T4R confused the heck out of me. What works in 4H vs 4L? Which modes of Multi-Terrain work with which modes of Crawl Control. When does the Rear Locker actually lock? When does A-TRAc work and what does it actually do? What WON'T work in all of those modes?
Even had to make my own spreadsheet to sort it out and keep it in the glove box.
Not to mention several of the 4X4s I purchased used or at auction that did not come with an owner's manual.
I don't mind the more "basic" questions.
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The lever directly engages the 4H and 4L gears in the transfer case, but engagement of the electronic actuator on the front axle is still necessary for 4 wheel drive to actually reach the wheels. The actuator engages automatically when 4H or 4L are selected.
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Redsoxx1918
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I’m betting that you were bored and decided to start a thread that would elicit a lot of comments. If your post is indeed legit, you are probably one of those people that should not own an automobile. Public transportation and Uber are your friend.
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Thrasher_S
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What I do is pop it in 4lo, then start pushing buttons and hope for the best. Fortunately 4Lo and the rear locker are generally enough and ATRAC is pretty easy. I have the worst time with the Multi-Terrain control... Different modes have different requirements.
I would love it if Toyota would create a "cheat sheet" built into Entune that detailed both HOW to engage and suggestions for WHEN. It wouldn't be hard. Manually opening it would be fine, but it would be awesome if it popped up if you push a button when something isn't available. The "Function not available" only tells me that the rig knows what I want it to do, which I guess is better than nothing. Sometimes I push a button and literally nothing happens...
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Jetboy
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Toyota should not have put both ATRAC and MTS together in the same vehicle. They're just different buttons for essentially the same thing. In the new Tacoma they either put ATRAC in the MT version and MTS and Crawl together in the AT version. No more overlapping confusion. The 2019 rav4 gets MTS.... and from the one video I've seen it appears to actually be the same thing. If it makes it into the highlander - there's potential for a fantastic IFS/IRS overland vehicle that would offer better highway driving and pretty decent capability for most off highway destinations. The fact that MTS is standard on all AWD rav4s, but requires you buy a TRD OR tacoma to get it blows my mind. WTF toyota?
IMO an automatic locking rear diff would not be a good idea. But having an automatic MTS/ATRAC setting that adjusts based on speed would make a lot of sense. I think it would also make a lot of sense to simply have MTS engage when you put it in low range, and the max setting be automatic when you engage the rear locker. Rather than turn it on - you'd have to turn it off.
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Toffees
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Another cupholder. It was a 3rd gen 4Runner. The limited has a 4wd button on the side of the transmission shift lever - but also a second lever for low range only.
Just a flat tray, unfortuantely
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So, did you read the manual and figure it out or are you still waiting for the forum mechanics to answer lol?
It's easy to tell if it's in 4WD. You'll see on your dash that both axles are iluminated. When out, nothing is illuminated. Hope you weren't daily driving it in 4Hi/Lo. You would know if you heard any binding while cornering.
Ryan1975
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No, they want to keep it open to hand out "warnings" to the vast majority of the posters in this thread instead of addressing main issue.
momo.75
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Obviously you don't get it. One of the main issues is people acting like children instead of civil and just helping people out. This was a legit question. It is pretty simple, if you have nothing constructive to add just move on. I made it clear it was a first/last warning and now you want to complain about us not doing our job. Enough is a enough
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mtnbiker49
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Just like people here to trd pro badges on their crap when it isn't. Then they trade to a dealer and the dealer lists it as a trd pro.
Engineer
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The lever does indeed go directly to the transfer case but as was already stated the front axles disconnect is still electronic just like the dial controlled electric actuated transfer case 4runners
Don't insult the lever
OP, you have to admit, the folks who built and designed your vehicle wrote a manual for it. Wouldn't that be the best place of information vs. the internet? Secondly you spent (I assume) tens of thousands of dollars on something that you were not sure of a major mechanical system (4x4) was in place, I mean come on that's asking for internet comments
I don't care what you ask, its the internet, but don't be shocked by responses you get (again its the internet)
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