I broke a lug nut stud :mad:

[Hans Moleman]

Wow the Toyota lug studs really are really crappy.

I was re-torquing the lug nuts with a torque wrench. One stud broke off on the front wheel. I didn’t even reach 83ft-lbs yet.

After breaking the 1st stud, there was another stud with the lug nut turning more than usual. I stopped before the torque wrench clicked because it felt like it was going to break like the 1st one. I think I should replace this stud too.

Luckily it’s on the front wheel which makes it easier to replace. Should I try to get Toyota to replace under warranty or will they charge me because I broke it myself? If they want to charge me then I will replace it myself because it seems pretty straight forward after removing the caliper and rotor.

 

[Jeremy556]

I've removed/reinstalled my front wheels, probably 100 times, torquing them to 95 ft/lbs and have never broken a stud while tightening.

I've had several broken studs after tire monkeys went nuts on them with an impact wrench. Have your wheels been removed before by anyone other than yourself?

 

[Hans Moleman]

Yes the wheels were removed like 10 different times by the dealer and tire shops trying to rebalance the tires for shimmy problems.

It does seem like the shimmy is finally fixed.

 

[Jeremy556]

Yes the wheels were removed like 10 different times by the dealer and tire shops trying to rebalance the tires for shimmy problems.

It does seem like the shimmy is finally fixed.

One of those shops stretched/broke the lugs. Learn to embrace the shimmy, you'll never get rid of it for more than a few thousand miles at a time.

 

[wcjeep]

One of those shops stretched/broke the lugs. Learn to embrace the shimmy, you'll never get rid of it for more than a few thousand miles at a time.

Agreed. I'd replace all studs at that location. Someone was hitting the studs for a 3/4 ton truck or heavier on your Toyota. Let's hope the idiot only touched one wheel.

 

[flyrv9]

OP, you might want to have your torque wrench calibration checked.

 

[MidnightOffRoad]

Everyone reading this thread should take this as case in point when I say that locking lug nuts are a gimmick.

All a thief has to do is torque the nut until the lug shears off. In fact, it's so easy to do that people do it unintentionally all the time.

To a thief who wants your wheels, a locking lug slows them down all of a bout .2 seconds

 

[Tisoy281]

Everyone reading this thread should take this as case in point when I say that locking lug nuts are a gimmick.

All a thief has to do is torque the nut until the lug shears off. In fact, it's so easy to do that people do it unintentionally all the time.

To a thief who wants your wheels, a locking lug slows them down all of a bout .2 seconds

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[Cndnmax]

Everyone reading this thread should take this as case in point when I say that locking lug nuts are a gimmick.

All a thief has to do is torque the nut until the lug shears off. In fact, it's so easy to do that people do it unintentionally all the time.

To a thief who wants your wheels, a locking lug slows them down all of a bout .2 seconds

How do you suppose they are tightening said Keyed lug? If they can tighten it, they can just loosen it instead...

 

[honda250xtitan]

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[Jetboy]

Locking lugnuts are kindof a joke. I agree. You just pound a socket on and remove them. Does anyone still use lockign lug nuts?

For me the biggest frustration is those stupid spline lug nuts. First why? Second, if you're going to run them on the trail - bring the fawking socket! On a recent trip some guy had them and no socket for them. Then broke both front axle shafts and also had no spares... and no high lift... but $10k worth of lights. Didn't want to leave him on the trail so we found some spares from other folks at camp and put is junk back together. The lugnuts were frustrating because there's no reason to use them - but it was pretty easy to pull them all off with a socket and a hammer. Probably ruined all of them though.

 

[Jetboy]

With respect to the broken studs - do you have OEM wheels? OEM lug nuts?

If you have aftermarket wheels - are they conical seat?

Is there any lubrication on the threads?

I run 2 sets of wheels and swap them out often. Sometimes 2 or 3 times during a month. I have never had any stud problems. I'm curious if this is an issue with OEM wheels or mostly with aftermarket wheels with conical seat lugnuts.

 

[FamousAv8er]

How do you suppose they are tightening said Keyed lug? If they can tighten it, they can just loosen it instead...

Old professor of mine jacked wheels when he was younger. He said they would just put a pole around the lug and jump on it to break them off (probably works for keyed lugs as well).

 

[Cndnmax]

Old professor of mine jacked wheels when he was younger. He said they would just put a pole around the lug and jump on it to break them off (probably works for keyed lugs as well).

Yes there are plenty of ways to remove keyed lugs. My point was that the idea of tighting them until the stud broke is probably the most inconvenient way because at that point u can just loosen them instead.

 

[Jeremy556]

For me the biggest frustration is those stupid spline lug nuts. First why?

I use them because you can get them with an extended thread area below the conical seat. My aftermarket wheels are a lot thicker than the OEM, not leaving a lot of thread on the stud.

I carry 2 of the sockets in the vehicle and one in my toolbox in the garage. If I could find some without the stupid spline drive, I would prefer a normal hex headed nut.

 

[Liquid_G]

Everyone reading this thread should take this as case in point when I say that locking lug nuts are a gimmick.

All a thief has to do is torque the nut until the lug shears off. In fact, it's so easy to do that people do it unintentionally all the time.

To a thief who wants your wheels, a locking lug slows them down all of a bout .2 seconds

Although not really relevant, i agree. It's been on my to do list to order 4 oem lugnuts to replace my locking lugs that came with the car. Just wonder how much that will cost me.

 

[Bumbo]

I broke one before on my rear wheel… I was pretty pissed at first but I learned some stuff in the process. Dealer wanted too much to do it, and doing it myself really wasn’t that bad at all.

 

[Jetboy]

I use them because you can get them with an extended thread area below the conical seat. My aftermarket wheels are a lot thicker than the OEM, not leaving a lot of thread on the stud.

I carry 2 of the sockets in the vehicle and one in my toolbox in the garage. If I could find some without the stupid spline drive, I would prefer a normal hex headed nut.

Thanks. That makes perfect sense. I don't know if that was why they were used on the truck I was with.

 

[nevada]

I use them because you can get them with an extended thread area below the conical seat. My aftermarket wheels are a lot thicker than the OEM, not leaving a lot of thread on the stud.

I carry 2 of the sockets in the vehicle and one in my toolbox in the garage. If I could find some without the stupid spline drive, I would prefer a normal hex headed nut.

I use ET nuts with my spacers. I got them from allpro. they would do what you're wanting.


https://www.allprooffroad.com/shop/extended-thread-lug-nuts/

 

[Hans Moleman]

One of those shops stretched/broke the lugs. Learn to embrace the shimmy, you'll never get rid of it for more than a few thousand miles at a time.

That's what most likely happened.

However I was warned by America's Tire that some of the lug nuts on the front were turning more than usual and the tech stopped before reaching 83ft lbs because he did not want to break them. I went home and tried to re-torque the nuts and here I am now with a broken stud.