I know this isn't the look a lot of you like

[trailtruck]

Toyo Open Country ATIIs

20" or 22". Probably 22. Stretched on what must be at least a 12" wide wheel.

 

[Jeremy556]

First let me say I hate trucks with this kind of setup but there is really nothing dangerous with stretching tires. The people who claim stretched tires are dangerous have never personally dealt with it.

I would counter that people who claim "stretched tires are dangerous" have enough common sense not to deal with stretched tires.

Certainly, people get away with running stretched tires without disaster, but they are operating very much outside the parameters the tires were designed and tested for.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

First let me say I hate trucks with this kind of setup but there is really nothing dangerous with stretching tires. The people who claim stretched tires are dangerous have never personally dealt with it.

Explain to me how transferring the load diagonally on a tire designed to have the load near vertically transferred is beneficial or safe.

Explain to me how having the tire constantly pulling away from the edge of the wheel and against the extremely minimal "safety hump" meant to prevent the bead from unseating in lateral movement scenarios is beneficial or safe.

Explain to me how exposing the wheels to get curb rash and collect debris between the bead of the tire and the wheel, further increasing the likelyhood it could be pushed off the wheel is beneficial or safe.

Finally, explain to me how prematurely wearing out your tires like their runflats on a Sienna and basically running no sidewall is beneficial for off-roading? I'm not even going to touch on the stretched/negative camber crowd that are running a contact patch on the edge of their wheels that makes a motorcycle look like it's got 12.5" tires on it.

I mean that genuinely, please explain to me my erroneous thinking and assumptions based on my knowledge of how vehicles, tires, and wheels work. I'm always willing to admit when I am wrong if you have the evidence to back it up (hell, it means I get to learn something new! ).

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To the OP, those are probably something like 24" wheels with a 10~12" width running something closer to a 8~10" tire with probably a 35 ratio sidewall.

 

[jthoms1]

Explain to me how transferring the load diagonally on a tire designed to have the load near vertically transferred is beneficial or safe.

Explain to me how having the tire constantly pulling away from the edge of the wheel and against the extremely minimal "safety hump" meant to prevent the bead from unseating in lateral movement scenarios is beneficial or safe.

Explain to me how exposing the wheels to get curb rash and collect debris between the bead of the tire and the wheel, further increasing the likelyhood it could be pushed off the wheel is beneficial or safe.

Finally, explain to me how prematurely wearing out your tires like their runflats on a Sienna and basically running no sidewall is beneficial for off-roading? I'm not even going to touch on the stretched/negative camber crowd that are running a contact patch on the edge of their wheels that makes a motorcycle look like it's got 12.5" tires on it.

I mean that genuinely, please explain to me my erroneous thinking and assumptions based on my knowledge of how vehicles, tires, and wheels work. I'm always willing to admit when I am wrong if you have the evidence to back it up (hell, it means I get to learn something new! ).

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To the OP, those are probably something like 24" wheels with a 10~12" width running something closer to a 8~10" tire with probably a 35 ratio sidewall.

MOAB Truth Bomb.

 

[Juicy]

Explain to me how...

 

[1engineer]

Explain to me how transferring the load diagonally on a tire designed to have the load near vertically transferred is beneficial or safe.

Explain to me how having the tire constantly pulling away from the edge of the wheel and against the extremely minimal "safety hump" meant to prevent the bead from unseating in lateral movement scenarios is beneficial or safe.

Explain to me how exposing the wheels to get curb rash and collect debris between the bead of the tire and the wheel, further increasing the likelyhood it could be pushed off the wheel is beneficial or safe.

Finally, explain to me how prematurely wearing out your tires like their runflats on a Sienna and basically running no sidewall is beneficial for off-roading? I'm not even going to touch on the stretched/negative camber crowd that are running a contact patch on the edge of their wheels that makes a motorcycle look like it's got 12.5" tires on it.

I mean that genuinely, please explain to me my erroneous thinking and assumptions based on my knowledge of how vehicles, tires, and wheels work. I'm always willing to admit when I am wrong if you have the evidence to back it up (hell, it means I get to learn something new! ).

~

To the OP, those are probably something like 24" wheels with a 10~12" width running something closer to a 8~10" tire with probably a 35 ratio sidewall.

... and that covers it.

 

[Scrubber3]

First let me say I hate trucks with this kind of setup but there is really nothing dangerous with stretching tires. The people who claim stretched tires are dangerous have never personally dealt with it.

I'm glad many have already enlightened you.... First off, I've been offroading for 23 years now. I've seen what happens to this kind of set up and I've had to help fix these in the field. I've personally seen one Toyota Tacoma flip because his sidewall popped right off his rim. Guess what? His tire and rim set up was very much like the discussed picture. So yeah, I've dealt with it.

Secondly, I Have worked as a technician, service writer, sand service manger at 3 different shops where we did tire replacement. None of those three shops would do that set up for fear of have to be responsible for an accident. So yeah, I've dealt with it.

Thirdly, after being a technician and learning that dealing with idiots all day wasn't what I wanted to do for the rest of my life, I decided to become a paramedic.... Guess what? Car accidents up close are gruesome, painful, and down right sad. So yeah I've dealt with it.

Forthly, I did 8 years active army as an COLT member (forward observer). I even got to deploy a few times and drop bombs on some non bacon eating knuckleheads trying to spread Mohammed butter. So yeah.... whatever.

So yeah, I've been there, done that.
Just because someone is new to a forum with few posts doesn't make them ignorant.


Stick around, you might learn something.

 

[Nickademus78]

YouTube it. It's 22x14 on 33x12.5 Toyo MTs. Everybody doesn't go wheeling in Hawaii unless you consider dodging the potholes on Oahu. He has it on display at the 4WheelParts show in Honolulu. For him it's all about fitament and stance. Seen it in person. It's a good looking ride, other than the wheels. Should have busted out with the American Force and I'll leave it at that.

 

[johnbt]

"the ATX"

I had to look it up. www.world-airport-codes.com

"Atbasar Airport (ATX)
Atbasar, Kazakhstan (KZ)"

Cool.

 

[Jhalko]

... and that covers it.

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