If 4Runners didn't exist ....

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... and you were into offroading and DD in one car + reliability, what would you choose ?

What would you say it's an equivalent to the 4Runner in a wolrd where everything else is the same except the 4Runners didn't exist ...
 
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... and you were into offroading and DD in one car + reliability, what would you choose ?

What would you say it's an equivalent to the 4Runner in a wolrd where everything else is the same except the 4Runners didn't exist ...

I would be super sad and depressed :(*
 
... and you were into offroading and DD in one car + reliability, what would you choose ?

What would you say it's an equivalent to the 4Runner in a wolrd where everything else is the same except the 4Runners didn't exist ...

Lots of options all with varying pros/cons

*New LD Defender
*G Wagon
*Used FJ
*Nissan Armanda/Patrol (infinty QX)
*Toyota Land Cruiser LC200 (Lexus LX570)
*Jeep Wrangler
*Ford Bronco (6th gen once you can get one)
*Any range of mid of full size pick ups

The obvious answer is a FJ or Tacoma as those are based on the same platform as the 4runner, I am assuming the Lesux GX460 is out as its essentially a Lexus 4runner/Prado 150. Tossing all those aside -

If I was to replace my 4runner today knowing what I know now and where I am at in life I would expect I would gravitate Towards the Bronco or Raptor. I really like the Options/Look of the new Broncos and am Renting a Raptor for a week shortly to see if I could live with the size. I am in NO rush to replace the 4runner and do not expect to even seriously consider it before 2024 and at that point hopefully the next gen LC and 4runners are out to cross shop my above options.

That said, I have learned Toyotas last longer then I will ever want to keep one - I will be at 10 years in 2024 and the damn thing is barely broken in (<80k miles now) and will be around 100K or so then. The rust (currently not bad for living its life in MN/MI) will get it long before the drivetrain dies. My point being a Ford or Ram or Jeep may not be as reliable as the 4runner or a LC but I am not dragging my family through the Congo and have never been anywhere in the States where my life would be on the line with a break down (expense and annoying yes) and if I was going somewhere remote like the Needles I would have a sat phone / Emergency beacon regardless of if I was in a Fiat or a Land Cruiser

*Edit the Correct answer is a LC200 but doesn't mean thats what I would do
 
The Lexus GX460 is on my list for that scenario - anything non-Toyota ?

I hoped the Tacoma would make that list, however it seems it has a lot of annoyances that people dislike --- mainly that 8 speed trans...

Too bad, I like Tacomas.
 
The value a 4Runner SR5 or TRD OR provides (to folks who want size and off road capability), if you don't have the insane dealer markups in your area, is unmatched IMO, so it would suck to not have the 4runner available :).

I would go for a used 200 series Land cruiser. If new, probably the new Tundra. For non Toyota vehicles, I would probably go with a Ford or Ram full sized truck (probably used).
 
Trucks included ...

I'm interested if any modern midsize or fullsize trucks would compare ...

The Tacoma has the same running gear are the 4Runner, but with a longer wheel base which makes it unsuitable for sharp hair pin turns. Also, it will high center easier. Same for any pickup.
 
The Tacoma has the same running gear are the 4Runner, but with a longer wheel base which makes it unsuitable for sharp hair pin turns. Also, it will high center easier. Same for any pickup.

Used ones maybe, but new ones have a different engine, transmission, and the frame is hardly as robust. Not to mention the interior is cramped and uncomfortable.
 
As an owner of 8 Jeeps, 7 that were great, my answer to the question would've been a Jeep. Now after two 4Runners, one great (10 TE) and one not so great (20 ORP), my answer is now Land Cruiser.
 
Lots of options all with varying pros/cons

*New LD Defender
*G Wagon
*Used FJ
*Nissan Armanda/Patrol (infinty QX)
*Toyota Land Cruiser LC200 (Lexus LX570)
*Jeep Wrangler
*Ford Bronco (6th gen once you can get one)
*Any range of mid of full size pick ups

The obvious answer is a FJ or Tacoma as those are based on the same platform as the 4runner, I am assuming the Lesux GX460 is out as its essentially a Lexus 4runner/Prado 150. Tossing all those aside -

If I was to replace my 4runner today knowing what I know now and where I am at in life I would expect I would gravitate Towards the Bronco or Raptor. I really like the Options/Look of the new Broncos and am Renting a Raptor for a week shortly to see if I could live with the size. I am in NO rush to replace the 4runner and do not expect to even seriously consider it before 2024 and at that point hopefully the next gen LC and 4runners are out to cross shop my above options.

That said, I have learned Toyotas last longer then I will ever want to keep one - I will be at 10 years in 2024 and the damn thing is barely broken in (<80k miles now) and will be around 100K or so then. The rust (currently not bad for living its life in MN/MI) will get it long before the drivetrain dies. My point being a Ford or Ram or Jeep may not be as reliable as the 4runner or a LC but I am not dragging my family through the Congo and have never been anywhere in the States where my life would be on the line with a break down (expense and annoying yes) and if I was going somewhere remote like the Needles I would have a sat phone / Emergency beacon regardless of if I was in a Fiat or a Land Cruiser

*Edit the Correct answer is a LC200 but doesn't mean thats what I would do

Totally agree on the Bronco but I've had three crown Victoria's and one Lincoln MKX, all with transmission issues. Hopefully the Bronco is more reliable.
 
Don't hate me but....

Nissan Xterra

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EDIT: This applies to if there were no T4R or Toyota 4x4's in general.
 
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Tacoma, easily. But 4Runners and Tacomas both exist, and I chose a 4Runner. Would do it again without a moment's hesitation. The V8 on the GX is tempting, but it would require extensive mods, and at a certain point, the cost may not be worth it for me.


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