If you HAD to Vote for One...

So You HAVE to Vote for ONE of These Characters...

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 66 26.1%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 187 73.9%

  • Total voters
    253
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I'm watching Johnson closely. I think this is the best opportunity in decades for a third party run, but they needed a rock star and I'm not sure Johnson is it. We have the two most unpopular presidential candidates in the history of modern politics, so it's now or never IMO.

It'd be great to have someone in office who believes in the ENTIRE constitution, not just the parts that go well with their parties platform (which both major parties are guilty of right now).

A person ought to be able to marry whoever the hell they want, while toting an AR-15 and smoking a blunt, and the government should have to have a warrant to see their phone records while they're planning it! :biggrin1:

Yes! Reminds me of that quote "I just want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns."
 
Then theres this...

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I find it a very bad omen that my first voting experience is gonna be to help decide which terrible candidate will become president


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The South Park episode summed it up perfectly back in the day... (yes I know the meme is not from South Park...)
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To me it is based on the question, "What is the most important job of the President of the United States?" And my answer is to be the representative and face of this country. It is arguable whether we are the "greatest" country in the world depending on what measuring stick you may choose, be it education, gdp, employment rate, citizen happiness level, etc etc; but we are currently the country most of the other world looks to. So, I ask myself if Trump is someone who I would want to represent us. My answer is simply no. Overlooking all of the misogynistic and bigoted rhetoric that he speaks or the hyperbole in which he speaks it, I see someone who just can't take criticism nor someone who would be diplomatic or moderate. Many would say that's exactly what this country needs. I disagree.

Just my two cents.

I am fairly sure that is the exact result the system wants. This is a bad position to be in for the common person. The politicians and their big contributors are really just dolled up sociopaths.
 
Based on the last few posts, I'm gonna say it again: If everyone who hates both current candidates votes third party, Gary Johnson will win by a landslide.

I encourage you to watch the Libertarian Town Hall tonight on CNN.
This. In a normal year I'd be against a third party because puppy-crusher (in a three way race the small breed party and the large breed party split the dog loving vote 33%-33%, allowing the puppycrusher party to win with 34%).

But this is not a normal year.

What you have is two candidates who are not merely unpalatable, but detestable, authoritarian and corrupt to the core, and they are being forced upon us by the establishment of both parties. The DNC was in the tank for Hillary from day one and actively worked to quash opposition and anything approaching a real Democratic process. Trump was definitely not the establishment pick to start, but once it became clear that they had to choose between Trump and Cruz, they chose Trump because they knew he would play ball and let them keep their power. This was demonstrated this week when States like Utah, where Trump lost in landslides and didn't earn a single delegate, had their entire delegations recorded as Trump votes. So much for the "will of the people".

A recent poll showed Clinton and Trump in a dead heat, with half of Clinton voters stating they were only voting for Hillary to stop Trump, and half of Trump voters saying they were only voting Trump to stop Clinton. If you do the math, that means 25% are actually pro Trump/Clinton and 50% are neither. If there ever was a year for the voters to tell the the political establishment to $@#& off, this is it. A third party candidate could win with 50% versus Hillary and Trump each getting 25%.

While I'm generally sympathetic to the libertarian position, I strongly disagree with Johnson on several issues, but a. he's in third place and therefore has the best chance, b. he's not carved from pure evil like 1 and 2, and c. he's the best chance we're likely to have in our lifetimes to turn the table upside down on these *******s who keep giving us terrible, terrible candidates.

So, the op's question basically boils down to choosing between eating a shit sandwich or a shit sandwich with cheese. I'll be choosing the liverwurst sandwich named Gary Johnson. I don't like liverwurst, but it's a lot better than shit, no matter what you put on top.

If enough if us make that choice, there is the real possibility that we won't be eating shit for the next four years.
 



What is going on here?
why are they so concerned with taking down this woman's sign?
Don't they realize they are making it a much bigger deal with what they are doing?
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PS- I'm always amazed that this forum, dedicated to a mid-sized Japanese SUV, leans so far to the right. Even the forums for the big American pickups aren't as right leaning as this place seems to be.

Hey, I've got a sticker of a US flag on my Japanese SUV! :usa2:
 
Little bubbles, the goldfish, its been fun. Fck it I am writing in my name. I could do a hell of a lot better job then either of the two candidates we have. I wont even vote 3rd party, just Jdog for president.
 
It's only the Hillary camp that is making that assertion. It was a foolish one at that. The DNC servers were better secured than her personal server and she claimed that was not hacked. Now is she going to walk back that statement?

In fact the person that is replacing the head of the DNC said she knew nothing of any Russian conspiracy theory. It just Hillary trying to duck another coconut cream pie.


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After doing some reading. Wills said he would leave the Republican Party if Trump is the nominee. He has a very strong distaste for the man. I would not put it past him to side with who ever had the best chance to beat Trump.


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