If your SAS Lets Talk

[MTRunner00]

Looking for build threads here.

Is there anyone lurking around on here Straight Axles and running Dana 44 and larger?

Starting my parts list and want to see what worked and what didn't.

I'm planning Dana 44 or larger Front /14 Bolt Rear (narrowed) and 39.5 Iroks.
undecided on 3/4 Link or springs.


You won't change my mind about SAS for all you guys with 6k into your IFS "Long Travel"
Tire size will match my IQ and Penis. Thanks for looking.

 

[Bad Luck]

Looking for build threads here.

Is there anyone lurking around on here Straight Axles and running Dana 44 and larger?

Starting my parts list and want to see what worked and what didn't.

I'm planning Dana 44 or larger Front /14 Bolt Rear (narrowed) and 39.5 Iroks.
undecided on 3/4 Link or springs.


You won't change my mind about SAS for all you guys with 6k into your IFS "Long Travel"
Tire size will match my IQ and Penis. Thanks for looking.

Here's all the SAS build threads that I have in my subscribed threads:
1999 SAS Dana44 ARB 4Runner Build
John's 99 4runner rebuild/build
DOWNPOUR11's Build Thread
Dous's Build Thread Version 2.0
ADH8796 4runner Build
https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/53403-photo-timeline-my-4runner-{lots-pics}.html
slowpoke99's super slow timeline/build thread
Addicted's 96' 4runner using TG Tacoma SAS kit

A couple of them are Dana 44 fronts but I can't remember which ones exactly.

 

[Devbot]

tire size will match my IQ and Penis

Would love this on a bumper sticker

 

[Team_Jake]

Besides the few that [MENTION=8262]badluck[/MENTION] mentioned, here are some of my favorites:

"Petey" Frontier 4x4's 3rd Gen 4Runner | Pirate 4x4

1 Ton 4Runner | Pirate 4x4

'97 4Runner on 05+ Dana 60 & 14 Bolt | Pirate 4x4

Dirtco's Adventure Thread
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A lot of inspiration can be drawn from 1st gen Tacomas since they have the same front end as ours.
Here are some of my favorites:

The 4 seater wife beater | Pirate 4x4

https://www.pirate4x4.com/threads/silver-double-cab.2676140/

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/malburg114s-3link-go-fast-sas.256427/

 

[Team_Jake]

Also, why a 14 bolt with a Dana 44? The 14 bolt is one of the strongest axles ever made, it's also one of the heaviest with the worst clearance. I'd either get rid of the Dana 44 for a Dana 60 which would better suit the rear, or get rid of the 14 bolt for a Dana 44, Ford 9, or Dana 60 which would better suit the front.

 

[MTRunner00]

Also, why a 14 bolt with a Dana 44? The 14 bolt is one of the strongest axles ever made, it's also one of the heaviest with the worst clearance. I'd either get rid of the Dana 44 for a Dana 60 which would better suit the rear, or get rid of the 14 bolt for a Dana 44, Ford 9, or Dana 60 which would better suit the front.

Price and Availability is why. $$$$

If I can find a Dana 60 I will go that route.
I would love to just do Diamond Housings, but again Price and Availability.
This thing will probably only ever see mud trips and snow.
Its going to be a long build, But I want to have axles and parts ready before I start cutting.

 

[Bad Luck]

Also, why a 14 bolt with a Dana 44? The 14 bolt is one of the strongest axles ever made, it's also one of the heaviest with the worst clearance. I'd either get rid of the Dana 44 for a Dana 60 which would better suit the rear, or get rid of the 14 bolt for a Dana 44, Ford 9, or Dana 60 which would better suit the front.

I second this motion. I would think a rear 9 inch would be easy to source and be more of a match for a D44.

EDIT: Even a Tundra 10.5(?) axle housing would probably be a better match.

 

[MTRunner00]

I second this motion. I would think a rear 9 inch would be easy to source and be more of a match for a D44.

EDIT: Even a Tundra 10.5(?) axle housing would probably be a better match.

Taking all the input into consideration.

I hate getting rid of my factory E-locker. So I may stick with Toyota Running gear. My engine is so tired it would be a miracle if it ever broke a Toyota axle shaft.

 

[busmup808]

Taking all the input into consideration.

I hate getting rid of my factory E-locker. So I may stick with Toyota Running gear. My engine is so tired it would be a miracle if it ever broke a Toyota axle shaft.

If your worried about missing your elocker, then just get a passenger drop TG/DIAMOND axle. I just did my SAS last November on 37’s I’m old, but wanted to build it right.

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[Devbot]

I just did my SAS last November on 37’s I’m old, but wanted to build it right.

I was gonna say, I don't remember you having a solid axle last time I saw your pics. Very very unique rig :thumb:
How much did SAS run all you guys? I've heard it's a solid $10-20k bill

 

[busmup808]

I was gonna say, I don't remember you having a solid axle last time I saw your pics. Very very unique rig :thumb:
How much did SAS run all you guys? I've heard it's a solid $10-20k bill

I paid $5K for rims and tires(both new)
$6K in labor(F3.5K/R2.5)
$8K F parts
$1K R parts

So yah, this is not including the other parts that you buy while doing a SAS swap. Spent about $6K in motor upgrades, exhaust, rock lights, other lights, supercharger, supercharger accessories, etc,etc. I have parts that I didn’t even put on yet because I’m waiting on fuel injectors. All parts I bought for my swap was brand new except one item and that was the steering box.


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[Black798]

I am getting close to finishing up the sas on my truck. I decided to go all out and imo do it right by redoing both the front and rear suspension. I kinda went down the rabbit hole of no cutting corners on it while keeping it toyota based. But between all the parts alone I am at least 15k deep. If I start adding up all the other stuff I did to make the sas better, turbo, standalone ecu, etc I would be well over 25k into it i think. Ive done all the labor myself. What I went with was a LC 9.5 axle in the rear and a HP 8". Coilovers front and rear and all the bells and whistles.

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[MTRunner00]

I am getting close to finishing up the sas on my truck. I decided to go all out and imo do it right by redoing both the front and rear suspension. I kinda went down the rabbit hole of no cutting corners on it while keeping it toyota based. But between all the parts alone I am at least 15k deep. If I start adding up all the other stuff I did to make the sas better, turbo, standalone ecu, etc I would be well over 25k into it i think. Ive done all the labor myself. What I went with was a LC 9.5 axle in the rear and a HP 8". Coilovers front and rear and all the bells and whistles.

I just sourced a HP 44. It has 8 Lug outers so now I'm working on gathering parts still.

I'm in Billings and am looking for IFS Lift Suspension parts for now. Do you have Coils or your take off stuff you want to get rid of? I won't SAS until I have everything ready to go, that may be awhile. haha

 

[busmup808]

I am getting close to finishing up the sas on my truck. I decided to go all out and imo do it right by redoing both the front and rear suspension. I kinda went down the rabbit hole of no cutting corners on it while keeping it toyota based. But between all the parts alone I am at least 15k deep. If I start adding up all the other stuff I did to make the sas better, turbo, standalone ecu, etc I would be well over 25k into it i think. Ive done all the labor myself. What I went with was a LC 9.5 axle in the rear and a HP 8". Coilovers front and rear and all the bells and whistles.

****ing Beautiful. If I had your fab skills it would of saved me about 6K and I would of 3 linked the front with coilovers in the rears.


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[bmason8159]

I’m not sorry. F%*k a danna 44. Complete waste of time. Cut out ifs to put an inferior piece of garbage like a Dana 44 in the front. You people are idiots

 

[CT135]

I’m not sorry. F%*k a danna 44. Complete waste of time. Cut out ifs to put an inferior piece of garbage like a Dana 44 in the front. You people are idiots

It'd be helpful if you contributed with a few options that you find to be superior to the D44 axle. Someone doing research down the road would probably appreciate that a bit more than just that comment.

 

[bmason8159]

Throwing a locker in the front of our stock diffs is a better upgrade than a Dana 44. If you think a d44 is a good option you are a moron

 

[Black798]

Throwing a locker in the front of our stock diffs is a better upgrade than a Dana 44. If you think a d44 is a good option you are a moron

The ifs in the front of these truck uses a 7.5" ring gear and 27 spline axles. They're tiny. Add to that the ball joints, spindles, steering, and control arms are puny compared to literally any solid axle components out there.

A Dana 44 uses an 8.5" ring and up to 32 spline axles. The ifs can't hold a candle to it lol. Dana 44 may not be the end all be all of strength but they did come in 3/4 ton pickups and are by far more robust than the ifs Toyota used.

Add to that if nothing else. The solid axle articulates completely different than the ifs and is far more stable in the rocks

 

[bmason8159]

I would use a front axle out of a Ford F-250 superduty which is a D60 and get a shave kit. D44 is nonsense.

 

[bmason8159]

And I agree that ifs sucks but if you’re going to cut it out why waste time with a shitty d44