Interesting choice for a police cruiser...

The Honolulu Police Department allows officers with enough seniority to use their personal vehicles (from a list of approved makes and models) as their patrol units. The city pays them a vehicle subsidy on top of their normal salary. The 4Runner and the Dodge Charger are popular choices.

Why the hell would someone want to use their personal vehicle as a police cruiser? Police vehicles are the definition of severe service; constant idling, lots of stop and go driving, filthy criminals in the back seat, etc. I would much rather use a department vehicle, unless they give you some horrible POS. The vehicle subsidy would have to be enough that I can go get another vehicle with it.
 
Why the hell would someone want to use their personal vehicle as a police cruiser? Police vehicles are the definition of severe service; constant idling, lots of stop and go driving, filthy criminals in the back seat, etc. I would much rather use a department vehicle, unless they give you some horrible POS. The vehicle subsidy would have to be enough that I can go get another vehicle with it.

I can only assume that the vehicle subsidy is enormous.
 
Why the hell would someone want to use their personal vehicle as a police cruiser? Police vehicles are the definition of severe service; constant idling, lots of stop and go driving, filthy criminals in the back seat, etc. I would much rather use a department vehicle, unless they give you some horrible POS. The vehicle subsidy would have to be enough that I can go get another vehicle with it.

I'm with you. That is a ridiculous concept. Just one intoxicated vomit in the back seat stinking up your ride or someone ditching a hidden needle that pricks your family when they hop in for the weekend getaway... Absolutely not something I would ever consider.

I can only assume that the vehicle subsidy is enormous.

I'm sure you're right. It must be a great incentive... being that the public sector has quickly grown into some of the highest paying jobs in the land...
 
I'm sure you're right. It must be a great incentive... being that the public sector has quickly grown into some of the highest paying jobs in the land...

Here in MA, almost all construction in roads requires a police detail -- an off-duty police officer in uniform, often with a cruiser as well. They get paid stupid money for the details. As a result, many police officers in MA make over $150k per year.
 
Why the hell would someone want to use their personal vehicle as a police cruiser? Police vehicles are the definition of severe service; constant idling, lots of stop and go driving, filthy criminals in the back seat, etc. I would much rather use a department vehicle, unless they give you some horrible POS. The vehicle subsidy would have to be enough that I can go get another vehicle with it.

I understand that it seems like a strange concept but the reason we have subsidized cars is because it's cheaper than having a fleet of patrol vehicles for every officer to drive. If it's your own car you're going to take care of it and you're not going to beat on it like a marked unit.

If we need to transport a arrestee, we just call a marked unit for transport. If we do end up transporting I our vehicle, we put down emergency blankets and the people we take are usually clean and cooperative Like a victim of domestic abuse being transported to a shelter.
 
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Being from Hawaii, and having several uncles/cousins who are HPD employees, its always been that way. They get a nice subsidy to use their "personal" vehicles for work. Two of my cousins had a work vehicle and a personal vehicle, because it was much easier to have their car ready to go and they didn't need to sign one out every day. Just show up for work and you're ready to go.

I've seen all sorts of vehicles being used for cop cars in Honolulu, from typical Monte Carlos in the 80's, to Ford LTD's in the 70's, to Isuzu Rodeos in the 90's! And yes, they drive Highlanders, 4 runners and even a couple of Tundras have been seen with blue lights on their roofs!

The approved list of vehicles is more of a checklist of requirements a vehicle must have, not so much an actual list of makes/models. Here's some info if anyone's actually interested in it:

Subsidized vehicles are unique. With subsidized vehicles, the officer purchases or leases the vehicle. The vehicle must meet certain minimum standards. It cannot be a sports car, convertible, van or pickup. It cannot be powered by a diesel engine, nor can it be in service for more than eight years after initial purchase. However, special exceptions can be made—if approved, the vehicle can be used up to an additional two years.

The subsidized vehicle must be able to hold at least four adult male occupants in reasonable comfort and have seatbelt restraints for all occupants. The subsidized vehicle can be any color but must have a wheelbase of at least 100 inches and be powered by a V-8 engine. If a V-8 engine is not available for that particular model, the largest 6-cylinder engine available must be used. Departments that allow subsidized vehicles maintain a list of “approved” vehicles which is updated yearly.

The officer who has a subsidized vehicle gets a monthly stipend to cover the cost of purchasing or leasing the vehicle. This allowance is also intended to cover any maintenance and repairs, as well as insurance. Depending on the officer’s department and assignment, the stipend currently runs about $540 to $600 per month. The vehicle is upfitted by the department, which will install the two-way radio equipment, siren and emergency warning lighting, long-gun rack(s) and mobile data computers, if equipped.

The department will provide one gallon of gasoline for every 10 patrol miles and one quart of oil for every 500 miles. Oil may also be drawn, up to crankcase capacity, for a scheduled oil change. Officers are required to meticulously document official mileage on a daily basis, and the vehicles are subject to periodic inspections for cleanliness; condition; and to see that it meets legal requirements for lighting, window tinting and other conditions. It must also meet department regulations concerning items such as political bumper stickers.


And before anyone else thinks that cops in Hawaii should be worried about having a target on their backs at all times, you gotta remember, Hawaii is a totally different place from the rest of the country! Most folks are related in one way or another, and nobody messes with cops there unless they're crooked!
 
Well, that explains it. $550 to $600 per month plus the PD pays for gas and oil.

Unless you are driving a ton of miles, that sounds like a pretty good deal.
 
Yeah. I still don't think I'd want to do it. I think as part of the job the department should supply me with a vehicle. It sounds more difficult for the officer to have to document all this stuff, and the department to fit the required equipment in lots of different vehicles. This just seems like stuff that goes on at a lot of companies where the company places burdens and expenses on employees that were traditionally the responsibility of the employer. But hey, if people like it and chose to do it, good for them.
 
Saw theses at the FJ Summit.
 

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That Rutherford one is New Jersey. Been there a bunch of times.

My city in Orange County, I've seen Minivans and Toyota camry's as police cars, but not Black and Whites, they just drive around all stealthy like.
 
This was posted to the Colorado 5th Gens Facebook page this morning. Here where every 4th vehicle on the road is a Runner, they're seriously undercover!
 

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