iPhone 5 - Who's in?

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As for cell signal, with my Platinum case (see above), i am able to get 5-7 dB better than my friend's Motorola Photon. Both of us are on Sprint. Both were tested at the same time at the same location in my workplace. We tested for about 20 minutes at different locations. Motorola Photon has been great at our workplace in the past...easily living up to Motorola's reputation for making great reception smartphones. So, this is very good news for me because it at least matches the "gold standard" at my workplace.

BTW, to get dB reading on your iPhone, see: iClarified - iPhone - How to Replace Your iPhone Signal Strength Bars With Numbers
 
What was your dB? I have sprint and reception is terrible around mobile. I usually average around -70 to -90

I don't know what power class the iPhone radio is but maximum output should be much higher.
 
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What was your dB? I have sprint and reception is terrible around mobile. I usually average around -70 to -90
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I am getting around that (-70 to -105) in my hospital. With those numbers, i am able to make and receive calls without issue. Radiology department is no go due to lead lining. My friend's Photon gets 5-7 dB worst.

Around Houston, i get better. In the smaller towns, i get what you're getting. And that's good...Verizon actually does worst around the small towns. ATT is a lost cause.
 
Quentin said:
I'm leaving mine nekid!

Unless apple offers bumpers again. Loving the phone so far. Super fast and the fit/finish is unrivaled.
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Quentin, Apple isn't gonna offer any bumpers because it won't be needed. And going naked may be perfectly OK too...see: Why Apple Is Killing Off The Bumper, And Why You Won’t Need A Case For Your iPhone 5 | Cult of Mac

"So why no Bumper for iPhone 5? The truth is that the new iPhone not only doesn’t need a Bumper, but it’s likely the first iPhone that doesn’t even need a case."
 
Thai said:
I am getting around that (-70 to -105) in my hospital. With those numbers, i am able to make and receive calls without issue. Radiology department is no go due to lead lining. My friend's Photon gets 5-7 dB worst.

Around Houston, i get better. In the smaller towns, i get what you're getting. And that's good...Verizon actually does worst around the small towns. ATT is a lost cause.
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I get -113 at work, but that's normal for most military bases I've been on. When I was in A school I had to put my hand out of my barracks window to get service and usually only text could go out.

Revisit this, I can't recall what my signal strength was when I was in Houston/Galveston but it was significantly better than Mobile. I was able to make calls and use data inside the skin of my ship.
 
The good news is that Apple has plenty of resources and money to fix the problem.

On another note, I am back to my Otterbox! Geez, i was getting dropped calls like crazy in my bedroom last night. I then switched over to Otterbox Defender...and no drop calls. I just don't get it. It's dark magic i am sure that Otterbox is practicing! I just now have to be real careful that my holster won't pop out when i do a lot of activity. Damn.
 
Here is what the (near) future of Android brings: Galaxy Note II. It has a 1.6GHz Exynos 4412 quad-core processor, 5.5-inch HD Super AMOLED display with resolution of 1280 x 720 and 267ppi, 2GB of RAM, 16/32 or 64GB of internal memory (expandable with microSD), whopping 3100mAh battery (swappable) and the latest Android operating system 4.1 Jelly Bean with Samsung’s TouchWiz UI. Like Galaxy S3, GN2 shares quad-core Mali-400 graphics processing unit.

Early benchmarks of the GN2 with above specs & 4.1: Samsung Galaxy Note II gets early benchmark treatment at IFA -- Engadget

If you scroll down, then you will see the benchmark table. A lot of the benchmarks are Android specific...and thus, not comparable to Apple. But, there are two that are...Sunspider and GL Benchmark Egypt Offscreen.

Sunspider: LOWER IS BETTER
Galaxy Note 2 1330 ms
iPhone 5 947 ms.
(Galaxy S3 gets 1752, while iPhone 4S gets 1780.)

GL Benchmark Egypt Offscreen: HIGHER IS BETTER
Galaxy Note 2 114 fps
iPhone 5 147 fps.

iPhone 5 GL Benchmark comes from: Lab Tests: iPhone 5 leaves old iPhones in the dust | Macworld

(Galaxy S3 gets 99 fps, while iPhone 4S gets 72.7 fps.)
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Based on above results, i highly doubt that Galaxy S3 (US with the dual core S4 and/or International version with quad core Exynos) will automatically destroy iPhone 5 even with Jellybean (4.1) as Koz had predicted.

GS3 has a lower clocked speed than GN2...1.4 vs. 1.6 GHz. GS3 in USA has huge 2GB RAM, but limited by dual core A9 cortex (http://www.toyota-4runner.org/1174360-post219.html). GS3 International has the powerful 1.4 Exynos quad core, but only has 1GB RAM.

GN2 represents the best combination of both versions of GS3...plus Jellybean (4.1).

(iPhone 5 has a custom dual core A6 chip clocked b/w 1.1 and 1.3 GHz [depending on load] with only 1GB RAM.)

Also in the near future is Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 PRO to compete with Samsung Exynos (and A6): http://www.toyota-4runner.org/1175686-post280.html
 
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Only on Android do you need anti-virus software and other security features such as this: :D
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Lookout now blocks dialer exploits | The Download Blog - CNET Download.com
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Experts discussing iOS vs. Android: Experts Talk iOS vs. Android, NFC at Security Summit | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

"Dan Guido, CEO of Trail of Bits, pointed to unpatched devices and Google's laissez faire attitude toward app inclusion in Google Play as two major reasons why Android devices are more often targeted by hackers than iOS gadgets.

You might expect these exploits to be ultra-sophisticated, but Guido and his fellow panelists suggested that Android exploits are "remarkably unsophisticated." And since they're often app-based, it's probably your fault. So stop downloading those sketchy apps!"

[Note: someone in this thread promoted Android being able to download apps away from the official app store...NOT a very smart advice!!)

As for NFC:

"When talk turned to NFC, Gordon said Bank of America wasn't really a fan. "The proximity is good for security but it makes the process no easier than swiping a credit card," ExtremeTech noted. Verizon's Delatorre had similar sentiments.

Guido, however, was surprisingly supportive. Since NFC requires a user to be very close to its target, there's a low risk of theft. Meanwhile, NFC readers are pretty pricey and at times complex, so it doesn't make financial sense for hackers to dabble in NFC just yet."


The comment about NFC readers being pricey and complex is interesting. Until both of these issues are resolved, i doubt that you will see NFC being widespread for daily use at your local market, restaurant, etc.. BUT, if it does become cheap and simplified, then will it result in increase theft?????? Note, this may be the reason why Verizon refuses to install Google Wallet on its Android devices. Apparently, Verizon (and ATT & TMo) are working on a more integrated secure digital payment method.
 
I know that some of you (Android fans) doubt when i say that Android literally stops updating your phone after 15-18 months. Basically, around that period, your Android phone will be on its own.

Link: No Android 4.0 update coming to Motorola Atrix 4G, Photon 4G and Electrify

No Android 4.0 update coming to Motorola Atrix 4G, Photon 4G and Electrify.

Motorola Atrix 4G came out in March 2011.

Motorola Photon came out in June 2011.

Motorola Electrify came out in late September or October 2011.

Remember, we're not talking about Jellybean (4.1), which is the latest Android software. We're talking about Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0)!! The above phones are stuck on 2.3 software (Gingerbread)...TWO generations old software!

Now, contrast that with Apple iPhone 3GS (came out in 2009), which is still being supported till this day with the latest software (iOS 6). :banana:

I can feel Koz sweating.... :D
 
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Interesting article on the A6: Custom CPU core design in iPhone 5 marks an Apple first - Macworld Australia

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“Mobile processors have been using Cortex-A9 [core designs] for the past two-plus years,” Linley says in an email. “Cortex-A15 is the next step in ARM’s roadmap, and the first Cortex-A15 should appear in phones around the end of this year. It offers a large increase in performance, although at some cost to battery life.”

But it’s also designed to meet requirements for a very wide range of end products, from smartphones to big servers. Apple will forgo ARM’s A15 designs but create an A15-class CPU of its own specifically for mobile devices. “Having control of the CPU allows Apple to optimize the design to meet its own needs,” Linley says. “Apple is willing to spend a little more money – on a more expensive CPU — if it makes the end product, such as an iPhone, noticeably better.”

Part of the gain is realised by moving to a smaller die process for the chip, to 32 nanometers from 45 nm. But by itself that’s not enough, according to Lal Shimpi.

“The result is compute performance that’s similar to the A5X in Apple’s 3rd generation iPad, but with a smaller overall die area.”

Why not just run the Cortex-A9 cores found in the earlier Apple A5 SoC at a higher frequency?

“To push frequency you have to push voltage, which has an exponential impact on power consumption,” according to another post by Lal Shimpi. “Running your cores as close as possible to their minimum voltage is ideal for battery life. The right approach to scaling CPU performance is a combination of increasing architectural efficiency ([the number of] instructions executed per clock goes up), multithreading and conservative frequency scaling.”

Here is a nice timeline of A6 design and production: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57514662-37/apples-a6-chip-development-detailed/
 
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Benchmarks: AnandTech - The iPhone 5 Performance Preview

I am sure that i posted this already. But, midway down the article, you will see GPU performance of the iPhone 5 A6 vs. others, including Samsung Galaxy S3 with quad-core Exynos and quad-core Mali-400 GPU.

So, despite having only 3 GPU cores, it kills Samsung quad-core Mali-400 GPU and trades punches with the upcoming Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 PRO (also quad core GPU).

And yeah, as for CPU power, the A6 does extremely well, bar none.
 
Some people just can't see the light! All the tech BS in the world is not going to make the i5 any better. The isheep are gonna have except the FACT that the iphone is no longer the innovator of cell phones. No amount of kool-aid is going to change this. The FACT is the i5 is just barely catching up to current smart phones and is plagued with serious issues (and not just build quality). The latest is display flickering!

BTW - As I stated before - Adobe Flash: I'm not dead yet! | ZDNet

Koz
 
Strange how "FACT" from Koz is all about his blind enthusiasm and total lack of research/understanding! Heck, just look at the link in his latest post! Remind everyone here if and when you get Jellybean, please post whether Jellybean comes with FLASH player.
 
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Here is a quick summary of the recent history of FLASH: Adobe Flash Player to drop out of the Google Play Store today - GSMArena.com news

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For a while, the Flash support was touted as one of the selling point for Android devices, especially the tablets. But that did not help Adobe, as very few Android devices were actually capable of running Flash properly. Not to mention that most of the content on the Web is not optimized for a touchscreen at all, thus providing a poor user experience. Then there was also the higher power consumption. Basically, all the reasons Apple gave for not including Flash support on iOS.

Eventually, Adobe chose to stop developing Flash Player for Android completely, instead concentrating its efforts into developing new and better technologies such as HTML5. Google, sensing this change, chose not to include support for Flash Player at all in their Chrome for Android, which was perhaps the final nail in the coffin.

After that, Adobe announced it will be removing the Flash Player from the Play Store on August 15.
 
Koz said:
Jelly bean will STILL support flash!

Koz
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Wow, you have JB!!!! Congrats! (Sorry, I was just joking!)

Koz, from Galaxy Nexus owners, JB is NOT nice on battery and does NOT support FLASH. Installing FLASH after the fact for a software not design for it will further kill any battery life left! But you knew that already, didn't you?
 
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