Is TRD PRO worth the cash?

Not sure I agree with you since I have owned the following:

1967 Ford Bronco

1977 Toyota FJ40

1985 Jeep Cherokee

1995 Nissan Pathfinder

2002 Toyota 4Runner LTD

2018 Toyota TRD Pro

I do agree that Group 1 probably is blue collar and does not go into work on the weekends and does not recognize the theory of "opportunity costs" and most likely has a poorly funded 101(k).

Group 2 most likely is comprised of white collar types with in demand skills that precludes them from wasting their time "wrenching" on their vehicles because their time is more valuable pursuing more lucrative endeavors that help them overfund their 401(k).

I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

I fall under group 2 and thoroughly enjoy doing my own installations.
 
TRD Pro: Bought, not built™

All kidding aside, I completely understand paying a premium for an exclusive color if you love it. You can easily bolt on everything else for less money but a factory quality respray is out of the question.

Let's also keep this in perspective a bit: we're talking about a ~$42k SUV. Toyota has a loaded minivan that stickers for more.

Some people just don't get it! I BUY my wine, whiskey, beer, suits, selvedge denim, 6000sq. ft. house,etc., etc.. I spend my time making money to buy what I want, actually I don't work anymore, but let's pretend I do!

You're right we're talking about an inexpensive vehicle, a mere drop in the bucket for some (me).
 
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Some people just don't get it! I BUY my wine, whiskey, beer, suits, selvedge denim, 6350 sq. ft. house,etc., etc.. I spend my time making money to buy what I want, actually I don't work anymore, but let's pretend I do!

You're right we're talking about an inexpensive vehicle, a mere drop in the bucket for some (me).

lol.
 
It really comes down to 2 groups of people:

Group 1 : People that have bought 4x4's in the past and have used them at least a moderate amount off-road and have a good understanding of a vehicle's characteristics and functions that benefit off-roading. These people generally have owned 4runners, jeeps, tacomas or full size pickups and have wheeled them a good amount over the years. 90% of these people would not buy a TRDpro after researching the baubles that don't contribute to the off-road worthiness of the PRO, at all. Sorry the suspension makes it look cooler but its marginally-marginally-marginal better than stock.

Group 2: People new to 4Runners or that have a very minimal amount of experience with off-road vehicles. This group is the prime target of Toyota marketing for Pro's. They have a new taste for adventure and offroading and are drawn in by the aesthetic bells and whistles of the PRO. They figure they don't want to waste the time or develop the know-how to make suspension, tire, or other modifications themselves.

They are all 4Runners however and I heartily accept each and every one into the warmth of my heart. I do believe the PRO's running around are new entrants to the off-road scene, but that's just fine - it's a great vehicle. You do have those 1 or 2 members here that bought a PRO to only rip out the suspension and mod it heavily, but they are just a few.

Not a damn thing wrong with either group. It’s Group 3 who act like buying the exact same truck but with different shocks and badges is the same comparison as say buying a Shelby instead of a stock mustang that are so insufferable.

You got a 5th Gen 4Runner. Period!
 
Not a damn thing wrong with either group. It’s Group 3 who act like buying the exact same truck but with different shocks and badges is the same comparison as say buying a Shelby instead of a stock mustang that are so insufferable.

You got a 5th Gen 4Runner. Period!

A real "Shelby" has nothing to do with a Mustang! If it's not an CSX AC Cobra who cares???'
 
I do agree that Group 1 probably is blue collar and does not go into work on the weekends and does not recognize the theory of "opportunity costs" and most likely has a poorly funded 101(k).

Group 2 most likely is comprised of white collar types with in demand skills that precludes them from wasting their time "wrenching" on their vehicles because their time is more valuable pursuing more lucrative endeavors that help them overfund their 401(k).

I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

:flame: You don't strike me as an enthusiast and seem to be posting simply to stir the pot. If I am mistaken I apologize. This thread is derailing quickly let’s play nice or lock it up [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION]

Not all of us consider wrenching wasting time - for some of us it’s a passion. We get just as much enjoyment from being greasy under the truck as we do on the trail. We are known to all our friends as the car guy/gal - giving out advise, fixing things, etc. because it’s something we enjoy. To us cars are pieces of art - not in the sense that they are meant to be museum pieces but we appreciate the design and capability of what they are and in most cases the passion that other owners have put into them making it their own. I have no musical talents so a Stradivarius to me has no more value than an electric violin. However, it doesn’t mean I don’t understand and appreciate there are others who do have those passions. Passions have no boundaries of profession or social status.
 
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You could ask the same question about buying a Limited model, is it worth the extra $$$ ? Of course it is...as long as it is the color that you want an it has the features you desire, and it retains its value...then it's worth the extra money that you spent.

Seems pretty simple.. well, at least to me.

Agreed. Biggest draw to a limited besides the luxury options IMO (maybe depending on where you live) would be the all time 4wd
 
Ok mr... "i think that people look up to me and are embarrassed by my awesomeness and presence on the trail because i drive a TRD PRO, not some measly lowly peasant SR5." LOL.

Awwww. You gonna go tell the teacher now? :(

Is this proof that the is 4runner is now the vehicle of choice for low T suburban men to rise up the ladder of the dominance hierarchy?

Some men, believe it or not, don't give a shit if they speak what's on their mind. And *gasp*, don't live their lives in fear of what others in the 'herd' might think.

I think this country needs a massive wake up call.

Great marketing for Chevy!

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No bone in this fight. You sir have managed to insult a lot of people with your rhetoric.
It comes down to this, do whatever you want. It's your right, but please stop stinking up this forum.
My two cents of course.
 
Not a damn thing wrong with either group. It’s Group 3 who act like buying the exact same truck but with different shocks and badges is the same comparison as say buying a Shelby instead of a stock mustang that are so insufferable.

You got a 5th Gen 4Runner. Period!

How ironic, I am watching the Mecum auction in Kissimmee, Florida when a 429 Shelby Mustang crosses the block and the announcer says (not quoting) It is pretty easy to replicate this technically and cosmetically, but you have to have the "paperwork."

I suspect it is also why no one with a 14 line listing of the modifications they have made to their 4Runner will venture to guess the value of their pet vehicle?
 
I doubt anyone modding their truck is doing so for the value - and your post implies that a TRD Pro vehicle will be a collectiable - which is highly debatable.
 
I doubt anyone modding their truck is doing so for the value - and your post implies that a TRD Pro vehicle will be a collectiable - which is highly debatable.

I am not proclaiming that a TRD Pro is a collectible (not "collectiable")!!!!

What I am saying is that you can't say that you spent $2000-$2500 in cash (or maxed out your credit card) and expended whatever amount of your spare time and ended up with a vehicle that is worth a negligible amount more than you paid for it and say "I saved money!" Does anyone on this Forum have any real economic sense????
 
Two things:

1. We just got my wife a new Highlander. It cost more than the 4Runner Pro. A Highlander lol.

2. My friend just got a 2018 4Runner SR5. He keeps it in his hangar in Colorado so when he flies his Citation out to his house he has a vehicle to use.

My point? A TRD Pro is not a prestige vehicle, nor is it expensive. If you want One, get it. Have fun with it. Don't knock others who mod their 4Runner to look like a Pro. It's no big.deal.
 
I'm looking in getting a TRD PRO or TRD Trail . Is the PRO with the $ ?

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I work 8+ hours a day travel, 1 1/2 or 2 hours each way (depends on traffic) and I have 2 young boys that plays sports. I can forget my beautiful bride. I have no time to wrench after work or on the weekends. To modify my vehicle.
I have $ but I don't to waste it. (That's why I have the $) like on a cool color or the WOW factor.
On paper the Trail and PRO should perform the same.
In my area of country I can buy both new under sticker and the used maket is the same (example 2016 Trail premium with 23k miles for $35k and a Inferno red PRO with 35K miles for $39k)
I started this post to see if I was missing something that paper doesn't show ?
I would like to thank everyone input, it has helped me

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