Thanks hossmaster.
I saw the tire shop jack up my uncle's Odyssey by the lower control arms, but I wasn't too sure if that's a good idea on the 4R.
I take it, you just use frame rails where the factory bottle jack would go. Whenever possible, I always leave the jack there as well. (I lower the vehicle onto the stands and then raise the jack so it makes contact with the vehicle, while all the weight are on the stands with the jack as a safety precaution.)