jeep gladiator up to 20k offf

osugsxr

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Read an article and found a few dealers marking the jeep gladiators up to $20k off. Sports starting at $32k and up, tempting to start a small build on one.
 
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UAW strike and the fact that Stellantis is almost certainly going to scale back production to prevent this from happening again ensures this is probably the best deals are ever going to be on Gladiators. I've heard generally the cheaper trims are the ones that you can get the most money off of right now.

Some other Jeep vehicles have a lot of money on the hood right now (Grand Cherokee 4xe for one thing).

Too bad about reliability as they do have some compelling options (but sorely need updated powertrains, at least for the higher output options).
 
New cars are a waste of money and a really bad investment and that includes Toyota.

Cars in general are a terrible investment take it from someone like
Warren Buffet the billionaire drives an old pickup and lives below his means.

You don't get rich by making bad financial decisions, only the greedy automakers get rich. You lose.

But buying a used car is like reusing a condom from some other dude.......sure, you save money but you may get burn afterwards, both figuratively and literally. :D
 
But buying a used car is like reusing a condom from some other dude.......sure, you save money but you may get burn afterwards, both figuratively and literally. :D

Amen. I'm so sick and tired of people railing about how everyone who buys new cars is an idiot.

There is more to life than the endless pursuit of as large a retirement account as possible. Live a little bit, you cannot take your money to the grave.
 
For example, recently i unloaded a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. On surface, it is good. But i had front wheelbearing issues since day 1. Honda finally fixed it at 10k miles. Noise never went away completely but very very minimal. Then at around 40k miles, noise gradually came back. I am past warranty. I doubt that it is wheelbearing...probably front diff or some expensive brake issue. Either way, i did not want incompetent Honda techs to have a shopping spree with my wallet. So, i sold it while resale value was still half decent.

So yeah, on surface, my 2022 Honda looks good. But buy it...and well...good luck.
 
New cars are a waste of money and a really bad investment and that includes Toyota.

Cars in general are a terrible investment take it from someone like
Warren Buffet the billionaire drives an old pickup and lives below his means.

You don't get rich by making bad financial decisions, only the greedy automakers get rich. You lose.

Let's also make sure we understand that Warren Buffet didn't get rich by not driving a Rolls Royce or living in a "normal" house. Some people just don't care about material things. He's just an extreme example of that. He's so rich there aren't any means to live below.
 
For example, recently i unloaded a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. On surface, it is good. But i had front wheelbearing issues since day 1. Honda finally fixed it at 10k miles. Noise never went away completely but very very minimal. Then at around 40k miles, noise gradually came back. I am past warranty. I doubt that it is wheelbearing...probably front diff or some expensive brake issue. Either way, i did not want incompetent Honda techs to have a shopping spree with my wallet. So, i sold it while resale value was still half decent.

So yeah, on surface, my 2022 Honda looks good. But buy it...and well...good luck.

Yes, I've always struggled with this when considering used cars (and to be honest, I've never actually bought one used in my whole life).

You find a good deal on a somewhat newer vehicle and the question that immediately comes to my mind: "Why did the original seller sell it in the first place?"

I personally find the sweet spot to be to buy new and then drive it for 4 to 8 years. Trade out before the residual value craters and maintenance and upkeep becomes significant.

A car payment is predictable. A major driveline failure or some other nagging issue is not.
 
Yes, I've always struggled with this when considering used cars (and to be honest, I've never actually bought one used in my whole life).

You find a good deal on a somewhat newer vehicle and the question that immediately comes to my mind: "Why did the original seller sell it in the first place?"

I personally find the sweet spot to be to buy new and then drive it for 4 to 8 years. Trade out before the residual value craters and maintenance and upkeep becomes significant.

A car payment is predictable. A major driveline failure or some other nagging issue is not.

Having doubts will ruin any honeymoon....

I have bought ONE USED car. It is my 2015 MDX. Still running great. It was not really used...it was used by Acura dealer as a loaner car...so we bought an Acura dealership loaner.
 
Amen. I'm so sick and tired of people railing about how everyone who buys new cars is an idiot.

There is more to life than the endless pursuit of as large a retirement account as possible. Live a little bit, you cannot take your money to the grave.

Yeah. I'm going to buy the last new car in my life sometime soon. I've been fiscally conservative my entire life and won't feel guilty about treating myself a little bit.

Besides, I'm not too concerned with what Warren Buffet drives anyway.
 
That's a ridiculous, stupid shallow analogy. I choose to have the $50k cash in my home safe and drive used cars.
Geez, you're the reason prices for new cars are so high because idiots like you keep buying.

Idiots like you don't get a joke analogy. :tape:

Why do you care if new cars prices are high if you always buy used? :censored:
 
How much do you have in your retirement acct?

If you think living a little bit is driving a "new" car that is worth 20% less when you drive it off the lot, then I feel sorry for you.

You need to re-think your priorities.

Why do you care what others buy? Are they taking money out of your retirement acct?

You want to buy my old Honda? :hatsoff:
 
How much do you have in your retirement acct?

If you think living a little bit is driving a "new" car that is worth 20% less when you drive it off the lot, then I feel sorry for you.

You need to re-think your priorities.

This isn't a retirement account pissing contest (even though you seem to think that is a good measure of personal success), but I'll just say my net-worth is quite good, especially since I got into a significant house in the Arizona market back in 2015 before the COVID-fueled insanity ran prices way up. When I add on my retirement and investment accounts I'm pretty happy with where I am, especially considering I'll likely be working for another 20+ years (being 42 with a couple of young kids). Being an engineering manager for a Fortune 100 company helps out also.

Your "worth 20% less" statement also makes no sense, at least with respect to a 4Runner (albeit, for many cars it is a true statement including my Rover).

I purchased my Pro in November 2019 for MSRP (about $50800). For quite awhile it was actually worth more than I paid for it. My last check on trade-in value puts me right around $43K. Thus, I have not even lost 20% value in nearly 4 years and 50K miles.

My grand parents lived in the same rent controlled apartment for decades in Brooklyn and amassed a large sum through their frugalness. All of it got pissed away paying for assisted living and nursing care. Hope it was worth it.

BTW, enjoy your $50K cash in your safe. It could be earning you $2500 a year in interest with a simple deposit to a savings account. But I guess you don't trust the banks either probably.
 
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