Jeep TIPM system?

[MStudt]

Anybody know anything about the TIPM system in Jeeps? My wife's passenger headlight was out so I replaced the bulb, and nothing came on. There is also no fuse for the headlights on these vehicles, just the TIPM. I've read that there could be a fault code stored in the TIPM that won't even show a CEL. Anybody know anything?

 

[BlackWorksInc]

Its the same thing a few other manufactuers have been using for a while, for example Nissan with their Integrated Power Distribution Module (IPDM) and they have a high failure rate also.

The Chrysler Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) is of the same construction and style. A quick search on the internet reveals how regularly these units fail and cause numerous other issues and yet unsurprisingly Chrysler hasn't made a recall/campaign yet(most of the failures I have seen I can only see as design/factory flaws, as I can't see how a consumer could have caused the unit to fail most times.) Its basically a fuse block with a module built inside and if you're worked on Chrysler products for any length of time you'll know their modules should have their own service interval for how regularly they fail.

There could be a DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Code), but I don't remember if Chrysler is nice enough to provide that on the OBDII generic side (i.e. using a cheap Autozone scanner) or you need a Chrysler capable scantool (Like the factory DRB3, or whatever Chrysler uses for its dealers these days, they have so many scantools its not even funny.)

Bottom line, is the TIPM is more than likely junk and needs to be replaced.

 

[MStudt]

Its the same thing a few other manufactuers have been using for a while, for example Nissan with their Integrated Power Distribution Module (IPDM) and they have a high failure rate also.

The Chrysler Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) is of the same construction and style. A quick search on the internet reveals how regularly these units fail and cause numerous other issues and yet unsurprisingly Chrysler hasn't made a recall/campaign yet(most of the failures I have seen I can only see as design/factory flaws, as I can't see how a consumer could have caused the unit to fail most times.) Its basically a fuse block with a module built inside and if you're worked on Chrysler products for any length of time you'll know their modules should have their own service interval for how regularly they fail.

There could be a DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Code), but I don't remember if Chrysler is nice enough to provide that on the OBDII generic side (i.e. using a cheap Autozone scanner) or you need a Chrysler capable scantool (Like the factory DRB3, or whatever Chrysler uses for its dealers these days, they have so many scantools its not even funny.)

Bottom line, is the TIPM is more than likely junk and needs to be replaced.

I'm pretty sure the scanners you get from Autozone aren't going to work. I remember reading somewhere that there are only certain scan tools designed to work on this. They do have some recalls right now, but they detail with DRL's only. I might grab the VIN tonight and see what the stealership can come up with. I know I can get a TIPM for about $400, just rather not have to replace this damn thing. Although is does have about 220k miles. I'm going to take it by my brothers on Thursday to see what he can find if anything. He's got a Snap-On Solus Pro that's supposed to be to connect with the TIPM.

 

[BlackWorksInc]

I'm pretty sure the scanners you get from Autozone aren't going to work. I remember reading somewhere that there are only certain scan tools designed to work on this. They do have some recalls right now, but they detail with DRL's only. I might grab the VIN tonight and see what the stealership can come up with. I know I can get a TIPM for about $400, just rather not have to replace this damn thing. Although is does have about 220k miles.

At 220k I'm surprised it hasn't failed sooner, they go bad pretty regularly.

Sounds like it is a Factory DTC and you'll need a scantool that can talk to the Factory Chrysler side of the vehicle for DTCs regarding the TIPM.

 

[MStudt]

At 220k I'm surprised it hasn't failed sooner, they go bad pretty regularly.

Sounds like it is a Factory DTC and you'll need a scantool that can talk to the Factory Chrysler side of the vehicle for DTCs regarding the TIPM.

Still on the original clutch as well.

If the TIPM needs to be replaced is this something that I can do on my own? Is there any kind of programming that needs to be done if I do need to replace it?