Justice Department announces $1.2 billion settlement with Toyota

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Toyota has reached a $1.2 billion settlement with the U.S. government that ends a four-year criminal investigation into the automaker’s response to safety issues, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Wednesday.

Under the agreement, the company will admit that it misled U.S. consumers by making deceptive statements about two safety issues affecting its vehicles. As a result, Toyota will pay a $1.2 billion financial penalty under a "deferred prosecution agreement."

Holder called Toyota's conduct in the matter "shameful," and said that the automaker showed "a blatant disregard for systems and laws designed to look after the safety of consumers. By the company's own admission, it protected its brand ahead of its own customers. This constitutes a clear and reprehensible abuse of the public trust."

The settlement represents the largest penalty of its kind imposed on an automotive company by the U.S.

Holder added that “other car makers should not make Toyota’s mistake,” while U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Preet Bharara underlined this point, saying that Toyota’s public admissions should be a warning to other automakers.

In a statement early Wednesday, Toyota said it has "cooperated with the U.S. Attorney's office in this matter for more than four years" and had "made fundamental changes to become a more responsive and customer-focused organization, and we are committed to continued improvements."

The criminal investigation focused on whether Toyota was forthright in reporting problems related to unintended acceleration troubles.

Starting in 2009, Toyota issued massive recalls, mostly in the U.S., totaling more than 10 million vehicles for various problems including faulty brakes, gas pedals and floor mats. From 2010 through 2012, Toyota Motor Corp. paid fines totaling more than $66 million for delays in reporting unintended acceleration problems.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration never found defects in electronics or software in Toyota cars, which had been targeted as a possible cause.

The settlement continues a string of bad publicity for Toyota, which before the unintended acceleration cases had a bulletproof image of reliability. Since the cases surfaced, the company's brand image has been damaged and it has lost U.S. market share as competition has intensified.

Last year, Toyota agreed to pay more than $1 billion to resolve hundreds of lawsuits claiming that owners of its cars suffered economic losses because of the recalls. But that settlement did not include wrongful death and injury lawsuits that have been consolidated in California state and federal courts.

In December, Toyota filed court papers after a four-year legal battle saying that it's in settlement talks on nearly 400 U.S. lawsuits, but other cases aren't included in the talks.

The negotiations come less than two months after an Oklahoma jury awarded $3 million in damages to the injured driver of a 2005 Camry and to the family of a passenger who was killed.

The ruling was significant because Toyota had won all previous unintended acceleration cases that went to trial. It was also the first case where attorneys for plaintiffs argued that the car's electronics — in this case the software connected to a midsize Camry's electronic throttle-control system — were the cause of the unintended acceleration.

At the time, legal experts said the Oklahoma verdict might cause Toyota to consider a broad settlement of the remaining cases. Until then, Toyota had been riding momentum from several trials where juries found it was not liable.

Toyota has blamed drivers, stuck accelerators or floor mats that trapped the gas pedal for the acceleration claims that led to the big recalls of Camrys and other vehicles. The company has repeatedly denied its vehicles are flawed.

No recalls have been issued related to problems with onboard electronics. In the Oklahoma case, Toyota attorneys theorized that the driver mistakenly pumped the gas pedal instead of the brake when her Camry ran through an intersection and slammed into an embankment.

But after the verdict, jurors told AP they believed the testimony of an expert who said he found flaws in the car's electronics.

Toyota also had to pay millions for recalls, as well as a series of fines totaling $68 million to the NHTSA, the U.S. government's road safety watchdog, for being slow to report acceleration problems.

Still, the payments won't hurt Toyota's finances very much. In its last fiscal quarter alone, Toyota posted a $5.2 billion profit, crediting a weak yen and strong global sales.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
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Curious as to what everybody thinks of this?

And GM did the exact same thing but for longer and leading to over 300 deaths.... What will their punishment be.....well if it matches toyota on the same slide rule it would equate to 121 billion. Yes...$120 billion Dollar fine. Who pays that... Well, looks like we will.

Let's face it.. Its not equal rights when it comes to auto makers, GM will get a slap on the wrist and a fine nowhere close to comparable to Toyota.

GM gets yet another pass, and Toyota gets worked over. :wtf:
 
Ok just my feeling i love Toyota a lot but they can pay the government so they don't get criminal charges. Does that sound fair? The ultra rich get fines and everyone else gets put in jail. If we take a sway bar off and end up flipping and hit someone we can get put in jail but these giant companies basically just get slaps on the wrist. I think that Toyota should have to pay a fine because they just kinda half asses recalls until it got serious. But I think that gm should be in deep $hit. But I think your right [MENTION=64685]TOY2G[/MENTION] I think their fine will be less than toyotas fine is.
 
I think if the roles were reversed, so would be the fines, and spins on the story. I don't mean for it to sound like it will, but no deaths were attributed to Toyota's unintended acceleration as part of software issues, yet they got slapped with the largest fine in automotive history. This was after they couldn't duplicate it, the company they hired couldn't duplicate it, nhtsa couldn't duplicate it, and NASA couldn't duplicate it. There is still an unclaimed $1000000 reward from Edmonds in March of 2010 if you can duplicate it. On the other hand GM knows their airbag issues have killed 300+, and their ignition switches have killed over a dozen. They'll get a slap on the wrist, and be back to business as usual. I mean, Eric Holder has it under control, we can all rest well knowing he's at the helm in the matter.
 
I'm usually not one for conspiracies but funny how during the recession this came up and then went away just a quickly as the economy improved.
Can we say "protectionism"

And if the middle three were to face the same situation, the fines would be paid via a "bailout".
 
Comparions

Toyo got fined for the manner and lack of providing information about the recall to the feds. Lets not forget there was no technical problem with toyo, bad choice of floor mats maybe but nothing technically wrong-there autos did Not run away on their own = no fault. Their 'fault' was not being completely upfront on their responses to the feds.

Now GM, of course the jury isn't done with them But I think we can accurately say they did have a technical problem, it was swept under the rug for over a decade, and it did Directly lead to many deaths.

So I feel there is a difference here, not sure what that means I terms of fines but GM failed to provide data on accidents that caused deaths within the 5 day limit. Not good. Before this I probably would not buy another gm product, now even less chances. All I really need is something that can pull 10k #s, tundra here I come!
 
Toyo got fined for the manner and lack of providing information about the recall to the feds. Lets not forget there was no technical problem with toyo, bad choice of floor mats maybe but nothing technically wrong-there autos did Not run away on their own = no fault. Their 'fault' was not being completely upfront on their responses to the feds.

Since they were found not at fault, then how can they(.GOV) justify fining the company for not proving they weren't at fault fast enough. I could see if there was an issue that was covered up, and wasn't reported fast enough.

If I said you were guilty of murder, and you were later found not-guilty, should you go to prison anyway just becuase you didn't prove your innocence fast enough?

It just seems as a good way to enact economic warfare against your competetors. When the people who write the laws, and regulations are your biggest competetor, things like this happen.

The original media frenzy about the "runaway toyotas" was right after the government's investment of 70% of GM was starting to tank. It was sensationalized for 3 months straight, and made headline news every day.
Where is GM's headlines?

Do I think that the fine was used to push GM's recall bad publicity to the back burner? Yep. Do I think that NHTSA has allowed this to just sit and perk while they try to recover more of the loaned money the taxpayers were volunforced to contribute. Yup. If the revelations of 300+ killed due to airbag malfunctions, and 13 due to ignition switches would of came out before the .GOV were able to dump more of the stocks...GOV would look like a bunch of morons.

.GOV Sells big hunk of GM Stock in FEB
Government sells big hunk of GM stock
 
I think it complete BULLSHIT, but that is my opinion. Not going to get into that because many others are making fine points IMO.

Everytime I take one of my cars in (Lexus/Toyota), I'm asked about the recall (floor mat and gas peddle). I always have to make it a point to them NOT TO TOUCH them.

NOW, there is a software update on practically all Toyota/Lexus that were made before 2011 (or something like that) that reprograms the ECU (when the gas peddle is pressed at the same time as the brake, it cancels out the gas peddle............ again, something like that).

I know how to drive. I'm an auto enthusiast and take particular great care of my cars. I don't need "big brother" telling me my car has to be modified because of other CLOWNS who don't.
 
I worked at a Toyota dealership a few years ago. I drove hundreds of their cars, every model. Never once did I ever experience any sort of 'unintended acceleration'. Even if it did, I'd slip it into neutral. Toyota is getting screwed. Even before all this went down, I wanted to punch Holder in the face!
 
"Unintended acceleration" is a farce. The issue is "pedal misapplication", DOT's finding and phrasing.
The hysteria 25 years ago arising from "unintended acceleration" in Audis was also found to be baseless.
The fine levied should not enrich government coffers, it should go to the consumers they claim were so grievously endangered.
 
I think it complete BULLSHIT, but that is my opinion. Not going to get into that because many others are making fine points IMO.

Everytime I take one of my cars in (Lexus/Toyota), I'm asked about the recall (floor mat and gas peddle). I always have to make it a point to them NOT TO TOUCH them.

NOW, there is a software update on practically all Toyota/Lexus that were made before 2011 (or something like that) that reprograms the ECU (when the gas peddle is pressed at the same time as the brake, it cancels out the gas peddle............ again, something like that).

I know how to drive. I'm an auto enthusiast and take particular great care of my cars. I don't need "big brother" telling me my car has to be modified because of other CLOWNS who don't.

Toyota is getting fined based on the principle that they should have been forthcoming about a potential problem and it "could" have saved lives. I still feel it a crock, but that is the reason.

"Unintended acceleration" is a farce. The issue is "pedal misapplication", DOT's finding and phrasing.
The hysteria 25 years ago arising from "unintended acceleration" in Audis was also found to be baseless.
The fine levied should not enrich government coffers, it should go to the consumers they claim were so grievously endangered.


This us intended acceleration is a loosely used term that has at come point plagued Buick, Pontiac, KIA, Toyita, Audi, and Jeep in the past.

Most recently in TX/OK a KIA SUV runs away by itself, it's even caught on police dash cam...... The media (read GM) need Toyota to be the focus for UA right now so this KIA (even thought ins on camera) gets ignored by the masses. But it worked, when you here unintended acceleration, you automatically think Toyota.

Here is the KIA video.


Runaway car shows need for Mo. left-lane law - YouTube
 
I think that anything Holder says or comes up with is a crock of turds. Not a fan of his at all.

As for fining Toyota 1.2 billion dollars......let's see if Government Motors gets the same punishment.

Where will that 1.2 billion go......off shore accounts no doubt.
 
The kia is supposedly stuck at wide open throttle and "she is powerless to stop it". Really? has no one ever heard of neutral? Or possible an ignition switch? How about a brake? No kidding they exist, I work at Ford but am a great fan of my 4R and I think its total government failure here to say that Toyota is such a huge failure. Maybe that not the exact words but it seems to be the overall consensus. I just don't understand how you cant stop your vehicle if it has brakes and neutral!

That's my 2 pennies worth!
 
Is it possible?

Accepting that one can stand on the brakes, shift into neutral, or turn the car off to mitigate unintended acceleration, I'd still like to know if there are any documented reproducible instances of engines running at higher than idle or increasing rpm's of their own accord. Any design flaw in a computer chip or engine management system which would allow this unintended acceleration to manifest itself spontaneously? Or a mechanical defect in design or construction which would cause the gas pedal to stay depressed, the throttle cable to stick, or the throttle body/fuel injectors/induction system to keep dumping fuel and spark into the cylinders absent driver input? I understand old throttle cables can stick due to age or gunk or who knows what and that floor mats can interfere with the gas pedal.
 
Accepting that one can stand on the brakes, shift into neutral, or turn the car off to mitigate unintended acceleration, I'd still like to know if there are any documented reproducible instances of engines running at higher than idle or increasing rpm's of their own accord. Any design flaw in a computer chip or engine management system which would allow this unintended acceleration to manifest itself spontaneously? Or a mechanical defect in design or construction which would cause the gas pedal to stay depressed, the throttle cable to stick, or the throttle body/fuel injectors/induction system to keep dumping fuel and spark into the cylinders absent driver input? I understand old throttle cables can stick due to age or gunk or who knows what and that floor mats can interfere with the gas pedal.

The negotiations come less than two months after an Oklahoma jury awarded $3 million in damages to the injured driver of a 2005 Camry and to the family of a passenger who was killed.

The ruling was significant because Toyota had won all previous unintended acceleration cases that went to trial. It was also the first case where attorneys for plaintiffs argued that the car's electronics — in this case the software connected to a midsize Camry's electronic throttle-control system — were the cause of the unintended acceleration.
 
It was also the first case where attorneys for plaintiffs argued that the car's electronics — in this case the software connected to a midsize Camry's electronic throttle-control system — were the cause of the unintended acceleration.
Thanks. I missed that.
I do not accept that because a plaintiff's attorney argued this and prevailed in civil court that it is true. Not picking a fight, making a point. Persuading a jury is different than objective truth. It is often more a matter of semantics than truth. I ask the question because I am unwilling to spend what I assume would be several hours googling the answer and wonder if someone here has direct knowledge.
Yes?
 

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