key fobs help

[The Cold War Kid]

BEFORE SOMEBODY GOES OFF ON ME I did the search, read the threads, watched the video, kicked the tires, burbped the beebe... and still the !@#$%^&*!! DOES NOT WORK.

Given that I have followed the instructions, does anybody have any idea why?

 

[Brian.]

WHAT doesn't work? Cripes, I don't even know if you're talking about the vehicle side or the fob side of the equation.

Post details. The more, the better. Without gobs of details, no one can help. And since I've been through this myself, I know, for an absolute fact, that EVERYTHING you need to know, has been posted already.

 

[BoomerBob]

It could be broken or have a dead battery. If it's new then maybe this video will help.

YouTube

 

[The Cold War Kid]

WHAT doesn't work? Cripes, I don't even know if you're talking about the vehicle side or the fob side of the equation.

Post details. The more, the better. Without gobs of details, no one can help. And since I've been through this myself, I know, for an absolute fact, that EVERYTHING you need to know, has been posted already.

That makes 2 of us - I don't know ether. Bought 2 new fobs. Can not get them to program...

Is it even possible my truck does not have remote door locks? Logical place to start. It says SR5 on the lift gate but it is a bare-bones trck - no leather, no moon roof... no extras I can see.

 

[HiLife]

Yah, the procedure is very tedious and specific. Miss a step and you'll have to start all over. On the 8th try...mines worked. And didn't work on the 9th try when I wanted to add another fob in the system.
I would think being a new than 00 rig it would have that lock and unlock feature.

 

[Brian.]

That makes 2 of us - I don't know ether. Bought 2 new fobs. Can not get them to program...

Is it even possible my truck does not have remote door locks? Logical place to start. It says SR5 on the lift gate but it is a bare-bones trck - no leather, no moon roof... no extras I can see.

Well, you're the one who has read all the form posts, watched all the videos, etc... That means you've seen all of this information already, right?

How did you know which of the 2 different versions of key fob to buy?

Best I can offer is that if you can't get the vehicle into programming mode, go into a dealer and ask them if your particular vehicle even had it as an option to begin with.

 

[spartacus]

That makes 2 of us - I don't know ether. Bought 2 new fobs. Can not get them to program...

Is it even possible my truck does not have remote door locks? Logical place to start. It says SR5 on the lift gate but it is a bare-bones trck - no leather, no moon roof... no extras I can see.

Inside the engine bay passenger fender has the theft detergent horn and wireless door buzzer. If you have these then you have the wireless door lock system.
Attached are the pages of the fsm that I have used to program the key fobs. There are separate procedures for adding a key fob.

 

[brillo_76]

Do you have these stickers on your door windows. Do you have the RS3000 or RS3002 module under your drivers seat?


If the answer is no. I would call a local Toyota dealership and they can verify with your VIN. If you have keyless entry or not

3 of my 5 do not have this. So its quite possible you do not have it or you may.


Might be a good first step. As if you do not have the module. Those FOBS will never program.

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[BoomerBob]

That makes 2 of us - I don't know ether. Bought 2 new fobs. Can not get them to program...

Is it even possible my truck does not have remote door locks? Logical place to start. It says SR5 on the lift gate but it is a bare-bones trck - no leather, no moon roof... no extras I can see.

2001 Sr5 V6 2WD

Unless a dealership added a module to have an aftermarket remote door lock fobs then you don't have it. Mine had a "Karr" brand module which you see in the Southwest; mostly in Cali. I took it out because I couldn't get the auto door locks, which I hate, to stop working. I couldn't get a "Karr" fob to work so I removed it from under the kick panel under the steering wheel. Very easy to do. The auto door locks stopped working and I was a happy camper. I have to use a key all the time but that's okay. There are other effective anti-theft devices one can use when going to high risk areas.

You may benefit from looking at the specs of your T4R.

Specs

 

[brillo_76]

I believe my were added on as they are limited. My 01 is a sport and I verified with my local Toyota dealership via the VIN and it has it


I say this because they clipped into wires and added a relay brick under my steering wheel. I cant see that being this way off a factory floor. However, maybe they all are ad on the the 1996 - 1998 style.

My SR5 [ non limited ]do not. I am sure some of the higher end SR5 may have the add on.





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[The Cold War Kid]

Unless a dealership added a module to have an aftermarket remote door lock fobs then you don't have it. Mine had a "Karr" brand module which you see in the Southwest; mostly in Cali. I took it out because I couldn't get the auto door locks, which I hate, to stop working. I couldn't get a "Karr" fob to work so I removed it from under the kick panel under the steering wheel. Very easy to do. The auto door locks stopped working and I was a happy camper. I have to use a key all the time but that's okay. There are other effective anti-theft devices one can use when going to high risk areas.

You may benefit from looking at the specs of your T4R.

Specs

Remote lock/unlock not present. Problem solved. Thank you sir

 

[BostonJon]

Easy to add with an aftermarket system

 

[brillo_76]

Easy to add with an aftermarket system

Can even add the remote start option. So your rig is all warmed up for you in these winter months. :] My mother and father in law have both their vehicles equipped with remote start.

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[Piney]

Can even add the remote start option. So your rig is all warmed up for you in these winter months. :] My mother and father in law have both their vehicles equipped with remote start.

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My wife has remote start.
She makes me go out and start it.

 

[BoomerBob]

My wife has remote start.
She makes me go out and start it.

:faint:

 

[brillo_76]

I am thinking about putting it the wife van. As my in laws really enjoy theirs. As my wife looses her heat quickly. If your rig doesn't have the keyless entry and your after it. That might be the way to go. Well it's just a thought anyhow.



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[The Cold War Kid]

Do you have these stickers on your door windows. Do you have the RS3000 or RS3002 module under your drivers seat?


If the answer is no. I would call a local Toyota dealership and they can verify with your VIN. If you have keyless entry or not

3 of my 5 do not have this. So its quite possible you do not have it or you may.


Might be a good first step. As if you do not have the module. Those FOBS will never program.

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Many vehicles have only one wiring harness. It has the wiring for all available options. If those options are not installed the plugs for them are still there.

I just wonder if the modules your pictures show (above) have a plug (wiring) in vehicles not endowed with remote lock/unlock?

If so, all I would need to do is to find a module...

 

[brillo_76]

Many vehicles have only one wiring harness. It has the wiring for all available options. If those options are not installed the plugs for them are still there.

I just wonder if the modules your pictures show (above) have a plug (wiring) in vehicles not endowed with remote lock/unlock?

If so, all I would need to do is to find a module...

Your rig is a 2001 or 2002 correct?

I believe they changed them in the later years. My photos are on a 1998 and I think they may have even dropped the stickers in the later years as well. :-( I think it went to the driver side kick panel instead of under the seats as we had a major change in the wiring in 1999 with the creation of the multiplex communication system.


I discovered this after I posted these photos as I have the pre 1999 and a 2001 in my fleet.

However, your thinking is correct. If your truck has the wiring plugs then the modules would be needed.

However, sometimes other things may be missing like fuses etc relays you name it.
So its not always as easy as it was for the Toyotas in the 1980s when all the trucks had the same wiring harnesses and you could just plug things in and they would work.
:-(

Research will have to be done and lots of things verified before I would say it would work.


I was bummed when I found out they changed the harnesses and left things out to save money. That all changed in Toyotas in the 1990s.

I had a 1998 tocuma sr5 5 speed manual at the time and wanted to add cruise control and my local parts dealer said it cant be done because most of the wiring harnesses didn't have the wires in them anymore. Unless your vehicle came with it.

So sadly, you may not have the plugs and wiring there or have only sections there. The 3rd gen 4 runners had a few different wiring harnesses and they are not the same from 1996 thru 2002. 1996 thru 1998 similar. 1999 thru 2002 similar but not exact.

 

[The Cold War Kid]

Your rig is a 2001 or 2002 correct?

I believe they changed them in the later years. My photos are on a 1998 and I think they may have even dropped the stickers in the later years as well. :-( I think it went to the driver side kick panel instead of under the seats as we had a major change in the wiring in 1999 with the creation of the multiplex communication system.


I discovered this after I posted these photos as I have the pre 1999 and a 2001 in my fleet.

However, your thinking is correct. If your truck has the wiring plugs then the modules would be needed.

However, sometimes other things may be missing like fuses etc relays you name it.
So its not always as easy as it was for the Toyotas in the 1980s when all the trucks had the same wiring harnesses and you could just plug things in and they would work.
:-(

Research will have to be done and lots of things verified before I would say it would work.


I was bummed when I found out they changed the harnesses and left things out to save money. That all changed in Toyotas in the 1990s.

I had a 1998 tocuma sr5 5 speed manual at the time and wanted to add cruise control and my local parts dealer said it cant be done because most of the wiring harnesses didn't have the wires in them anymore. Unless your vehicle came with it.

So sadly, you may not have the plugs and wiring there or have only sections there. The 3rd gen 4 runners had a few different wiring harnesses and they are not the same from 1996 thru 2002. 1996 thru 1998 similar. 1999 thru 2002 similar but not exact.

Yeah - it's a 2001 sr5 2x4

I can't help but wonder how you know all this. Are you a line mechanic at a toyota dealership?

Another guy posted a link to a features list and there I saw only the limited models have remote entry. They were 4x4 only and cost 10k more.

My "rig" in purring now - still waiting for the other shoe to drop with the weird noise and the screaming on freezing mornings but other than that it's going good.

I was looking for a suv type vehicle for a while. I liked the sequoia but the fuel use and the NASTY thing with the air pump scared me off. I'm allergic to gm vehicles - never had a single one that was worth a (!). So I bought this truck. I really don't like the dinky interior but if it is as reliable and immortal as they say, I guess I can tolerate it.

And... so it goes. Thanks for sharing what you know

 

[brillo_76]

Yeah - it's a 2001 sr5 2x4



I can't help but wonder how you know all this. Are you a line mechanic at a toyota dealership?



Another guy posted a link to a features list and there I saw only the limited models have remote entry. They were 4x4 only and cost 10k more.



My "rig" in purring now - still waiting for the other shoe to drop with the weird noise and the screaming on freezing mornings but other than that it's going good.



I was looking for a suv type vehicle for a while. I liked the sequoia but the fuel use and the NASTY thing with the air pump scared me off. I'm allergic to gm vehicles - never had a single one that was worth a (!). So I bought this truck. I really don't like the dinky interior but if it is as reliable and immortal as they say, I guess I can tolerate it.



And... so it goes. Thanks for sharing what you know

I am a hobby mechanic that have owned Toyotas for almost 30 years and started working on them when I was 14 years old.

We do have many users on here that are daily mechanics. Not me though. Its just a hobby.

I own 5 of the 3rd gens.

Anyhow. Your harnesses and locations will have to be verified.

I am suspecting your rig will not have the plugs.

I will look at my 2001 and see if it was moved or not. I thinking it was but that will tell me for sure.



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