Land Cruiser 2022
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Jetboy
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Most recent info suggests LC300 will not be sold in north america market. Land Cruiser name will likely come on something else for North America, like a sub-model 4Runner or a modified 4Runner platform sibling.
Or a Rav4 - Adventure - TRD OFF ROAD - Land Cruiser Edition. As seen below. But based on the new Sienna hybrid.
Supposed spy shots suggest it's actually just a mild refresh with possibly new engine options.
Or a Rav4 - Adventure - TRD OFF ROAD - Land Cruiser Edition. As seen below. But based on the new Sienna hybrid.
Supposed spy shots suggest it's actually just a mild refresh with possibly new engine options.
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Jetboy
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It seems like it should be. I'd bet those are really just a facelift 200 due to the 300 delay. But who knows?
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Ill keep my eye on them, but it all comes down to what they price them at and if they are in demand in the used market.
4Runners are priced a bit high, IMO, but hold their value fairly well as long as it isnt beat up.
The latest version of the LC was ~80K or 90K give or take. Usually higher with options. At that price, with the ancient luxury items, and the horrible MPG... Nobody wanted them used even if there was someone silly enough to buy it new. Especially when the current 4runners were basically the LC in terms of original market space.
Have they even announced the NA version yet?
Anyone who must have at reliable LC overlander can import a 25 year old J70 nowadays. Sizable aftermarket options, lots of places have them ready for export. If I wasnt lazy, that may be on my list.
4Runners are priced a bit high, IMO, but hold their value fairly well as long as it isnt beat up.
The latest version of the LC was ~80K or 90K give or take. Usually higher with options. At that price, with the ancient luxury items, and the horrible MPG... Nobody wanted them used even if there was someone silly enough to buy it new. Especially when the current 4runners were basically the LC in terms of original market space.
Have they even announced the NA version yet?
Anyone who must have at reliable LC overlander can import a 25 year old J70 nowadays. Sizable aftermarket options, lots of places have them ready for export. If I wasnt lazy, that may be on my list.
Jetboy
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Top pic was a joke. Photoshopped rav/LC200.
Lower pic is supposedly 2021 MY SL200's in Japan. If that's true - I think it means that 2021 will not be the LC300 or if it is, it's a mild facelift. The biggest reason that I think it's a LC200 is that it still has 5 lug wheels. All of the test mule Tundras running around with the TNGA B platform have returned to 6 lug wheels. I expect to see the LC300 also return to using 6 lug wheels.
However - most reports lately suggest the LC300 will not come to north america. IIRC the quote from Toyota was something like "USA dealers want the Land Cruiser nameplate, not the vehicle."
cb1111
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I guess you never looked at the used LC market in the US then. New, the 2020 sells for 79k. A 2016 sells for 63k - and it sells....
LandCruiser
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Too much expensive luxo shit on the LC200 to make me buy one.
65k would be the most I'd pay for a TLC.
With the Bronco coming, not sure what off road centric vehicle Toyota plans to field, if any.
65k would be the most I'd pay for a TLC.
With the Bronco coming, not sure what off road centric vehicle Toyota plans to field, if any.
I have 2013 LC in addition to my '12 & '19 4Runners
RichinRidgewood
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bamma
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I am a big Land Cruiser enthusiast and own an 82 FJ40, 88 FJ62 and 16 200 Series along with my 4Runner and 84 Toyota pickup.The 4Runner is a better bang for the buck, but owning both, my 2020 4Runner Limited pales in comparison to my 2016 Land Cruiser. Android Auto is the only feature the 4Runner has the Cruiser does not. The power, fit and feel are better on the Cruiser (as it should be for double the cost). The Cruiser is overbuilt, and that is the reason it has a loyal following despite its window sticker and outdated electronics.
Everything indicates the 300 series will come to the US, and will have a twin turbo V6. There are also indications of a lower price point, with the Lexus equivalent becoming more expensive and luxury vehicle oriented.
I off-road all my rigs. Solid axles aside, my 200 does as good or better off-road in many situations vs the other iterations I own.
As far as the 70 Series mentioned above, I'd love one, and rented one in AUS, but the 4Runner feels like a luxury rig compared. I'd happily buy a modern sfa toyota with current safety feature in a bare bones package, but I don't think a 70 Series would sell well here, even if there are enthusiasts like me that would jump at getting one.
As far as importing, it is hard enough getting parts for my Cruisers that were sold here. It would be a PITA maintaining a rare to the U.S. rig.
I'll get a 300 series eventually, but I am on my 2nd 200 Series, and with low miles on my 16, it will be a few years, and even w more power via turbo, I will prefer the v8 of the 200. Never been a fan of Turbo for offroading.
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I was lucky enough for work to give me a J70 in Sout Africa for the few months I was there. Ive been counting they days down to 25 years. Im guessing there will be a mini J70 flood in the US in 2025.
The parts while more work, are out there. I sold my 110 Defender for lack of parts. I fully expect me to feel the same way once I pick up a J70, but it will be my lazy attitude and not the market. That car is still going in production on year 21.
Agreed. I prefer the V8 as well. I hope Toyota will not follow the rest of the manufacturer and downgrade and get rid of the V8. I hope they would still have an option. I Don't believe in Turbo or supercharge. They put more strain on the engine and shorten its life. More things to go wrong. etc...
Finslayer83
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The build quality of a 100/200 is far greater than that of our 4R's.
Used 200's don't last more than a few days on the market here. New ones - local dealers sell everyone they get.
Maybe its just the Nashville area but I see a lot of LC's daily.
If they do follow through with the 5 seater and more simple trim levels (think SR5) - I'm a buyer 100% as long as its in the $45-55k range as some have predicted. There is too much "off road" pressure at the moment on the market for Toyota to ignore the demand. The Bronco has created lots of waves which will drive competition for years. We should all be excited Ford did it for that point alone.
Move the luxury to Lexus and let the masses have a "buy-able" and capable Land Cruiser. I wanted a 100 series terribly, but was not going to pay $25-30k for a 13 year old vehicle at best with 150k on it. So TRDP it was.
If Toyota does it - I'm sure a lot of us would be buyers.
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