LawnDart's Build Thread

Thanks, working on an article about "everyday overlanding" which concerns the practical concerns regarding daily driving an expo style rig.

That will be a good article, I like the more practical geared articles with the realities listed along with the pros of modifications.

Question: I know the wheels travel in an Arc but it looks like your 35"s would wipe out the front fenders on more then just a few inches (maybe its 6", hard to tell) of up travel, do you have some sort of bump stops to prevent this or do I not understand something?

As always, appreciate the photos and build
 
That will be a good article, I like the more practical geared articles with the realities listed along with the pros of modifications.

Question: I know the wheels travel in an Arc but it looks like your 35"s would wipe out the front fenders on more then just a few inches (maybe its 6", hard to tell) of up travel, do you have some sort of bump stops to prevent this or do I not understand something?

As always, appreciate the photos and build

Are you talking about the rears?
 
That will be a good article, I like the more practical geared articles with the realities listed along with the pros of modifications.

Question: I know the wheels travel in an Arc but it looks like your 35"s would wipe out the front fenders on more then just a few inches (maybe its 6", hard to tell) of up travel, do you have some sort of bump stops to prevent this or do I not understand something?

As always, appreciate the photos and build

Yes the rears travel in an arc. At full droop they are actually in front of the rear fender wells which boggles your mind the first time you see it on a lift. We have some pretty massive bump stop extensions, about 2" in fact that keep the tire at about 1/4" from the bottom of the fender wells when at full stuffed. Otherwise we'd be beating the truck to death when articulating.

The front fenders are fine. I have some trimming to do with those little plastic caps at the base of the rocker panels and maybe cutting off some more of the actual fender liner but no major rubbing all things considered.
 
For some dumbass reason I opted to take Highway 1 from the bay area to Eureka CA (My plan was to go up to Crescent City but the trip took waaaaay longer than I thought).

My review of Highway 1: I did not skip arm day. Driving a long travel 4Runner through the coastal roads was both pretty exhausting, and pretty awesome. Amazing little towns only 2-3 blocks long, sandwiched between vistas that are hard to describe.

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Jesus that's cool....
 
For some dumbass reason I opted to take Highway 1 from the bay area to Eureka CA (My plan was to go up to Crescent City but the trip took waaaaay longer than I thought).

My review of Highway 1: I did not skip arm day. Driving a long travel 4Runner through the coastal roads was both pretty exhausting, and pretty awesome. Amazing little towns only 2-3 blocks long, sandwiched between vistas that are hard to describe.

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Can you elaborate more on the "exhausting" aspect.... I ask because I've also made this drive and understand in the poor weather conditions how mentally exhausting those types of drives can be... they just drain you, period. The level of concentration has to be so high.

Wondering if that's what you experienced or if the "new mods" added a new element to the driving experience.

Example: Driving my 80 Series on 37's takes allot more concentration then say driving my slightly modified 4Runner down the road.

More "sway" with the LT maybe, added body roll perhaps and over all your learning the truck all over again I'd think. Learning it's new characteristics and where those limits are with the new set up.

Last, how did the new tires do in the wet stuff ? Very curious about these tires, as they are still new not many reviews on them yet.

Sounds like you opted to head inland, I hear the drive up the "lost coast" is pretty amazing just above where you ditched.

-A
 
Can you elaborate more on the "exhausting" aspect.... I ask because I've also made this drive and understand in the poor weather conditions how mentally exhausting those types of drives can be... they just drain you, period. The level of concentration has to be so high.

Wondering if that's what you experienced or if the "new mods" added a new element to the driving experience.

Example: Driving my 80 Series on 37's takes allot more concentration then say driving my slightly modified 4Runner down the road.

More "sway" with the LT maybe, added body roll perhaps and over all your learning the truck all over again I'd think. Learning it's new characteristics and where those limits are with the new set up.

Last, how did the new tires do in the wet stuff ? Very curious about these tires, as they are still new not many reviews on them yet.

Sounds like you opted to head inland, I hear the drive up the "lost coast" is pretty amazing just above where you ditched.

-A
I'm curious about the road manners as well...
You should have a lot of adjust ability available, but it takes time to get your preferences for different conditions dialed in... A trip is not usually when you want to experiment....

And I know it is impossible to have your cake and eat it too. Rigs that are fantastic off-road are usually a compromise on the road. Plus, the more weight and gear the more compromises everywhere.. but without the gear... those are also compromises. It's always a balancing act...
 
I did not skip arm day.

lol

I've seen on the offroad build shows when moving up to bigger wheels/tires they will put in a stronger steering actuator. Is that something you considered or, maybe now will?

I remember driving a few work trucks in the days before power steering. Two handed turns were a must. lol
 
lighting

lawn,

did you go with amber rock lights in the rear bumper like you did with the fog lights in the front bumper? also thanks for that reply earlier, kinda know what all I need to save up for and build on my trd.
 
lol

I've seen on the offroad build shows when moving up to bigger wheels/tires they will put in a stronger steering actuator. Is that something you considered or, maybe now will?

I remember driving a few work trucks in the days before power steering. Two handed turns were a must. lol

I've never seen hydro assist on an IFS... not to say it can't be done but that would be very interesting to see.

-A
 
Can you elaborate more on the "exhausting" aspect.... I ask because I've also made this drive and understand in the poor weather conditions how mentally exhausting those types of drives can be... they just drain you, period. The level of concentration has to be so high.

Wondering if that's what you experienced or if the "new mods" added a new element to the driving experience.

Example: Driving my 80 Series on 37's takes allot more concentration then say driving my slightly modified 4Runner down the road.

More "sway" with the LT maybe, added body roll perhaps and over all your learning the truck all over again I'd think. Learning it's new characteristics and where those limits are with the new set up.

Last, how did the new tires do in the wet stuff ? Very curious about these tires, as they are still new not many reviews on them yet.

Sounds like you opted to head inland, I hear the drive up the "lost coast" is pretty amazing just above where you ditched.

-A

Stiller turning is something I have. It doesn't want to just snap back to straight on its own. More due to increased track width I think. Plus, it takes some getting used to driving the narrow hwy 1. Yes, I personally love the lost coast and some amazing places to eat once up past Jenner... cool camping spots too. Another trip you should do it [MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION]
 
Stiller turning is something I have. It doesn't want to just snap back to straight on its own. More due to increased track width I think. Plus, it takes some getting used to driving the narrow hwy 1. Yes, I personally love the lost coast and some amazing places to eat once up past Jenner... cool camping spots too. Another trip you should do it [MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION]

I would think the stiffer wheel feel... would be the upper and lower uni-balls. They tend to be pretty stiff at first compared to factory stuff.
 
Stiller turning is something I have. It doesn't want to just snap back to straight on its own. More due to increased track width I think. Plus, it takes some getting used to driving the narrow hwy 1. Yes, I personally love the lost coast and some amazing places to eat once up past Jenner... cool camping spots too. Another trip you should do it [MENTION=124732]LawnDart[/MENTION]



I have the stiffer turning too. And mine doesn't snap back either. Initially my truck was wandering all over the place but I attributed that to the difference in front and rear track width. When I threw the spacers on in the rear the wandering went away. Now I just need to drive it more to get use to it.

And I would join for a List Coast trip!


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Sorry for the late response. I'd say it was more exhausting because Hwy 1 has a lot of constant curves, punctuated by some pretty sharp turns on hills coming up to fast inclines, so you're essentially carving into some pretty fast decelerations and then accelerating out of some hairpin turns. This would be difficult even in a smaller sports car. The long travel doesn't dramatically affect things, but you tend to carve in maybe a little more intensely and you have to manage your speeds.

It says 55mph on the roads but some of them are so windy you'd be hard pressed to do 40mph on a good day, and it was dumping rain.

I will say, and a lot of folks might gloss over this, but the upkeep on the long travel components is a lot more intense. For example I got home friday, and yesterday I took the car to the self serve car wash, and blasted it with soap and sprayed it off.

Later in the day I started getting a truly dreadful squeaking noise. Like "oh sweet baby jesus" level bad as I was on the streets. So bad people looked at me like i was driving an 1980's level shitbox corolloa level bad. Basically I think the soap dried out the uniball polyurethane bushings. So today I went over to REI and bought some Triflow spray on dry lube (it's basically graphite powder in a fish oil medium) and sprayed the uniballs on the UCAs, LCAs, trailing arms, and pan arm bar, and it totally went away. I was also advised to hit the bushings too, since it won't affect the existing grease.

Basically, if you daily drive a long travel truck, prepare for a lot more time spent under your truck.
 

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