Limit straps a good investment?

[hakunamatata]

Hola dudes, I removed my sway bars from my rig a few months ago for better flexing fun, but now that im going to start driving this beast everyday some kind of sway resistance would be nice. lol Anyways on to the point, i was looking for advice on what size strap i would need for a 3 in. suspension lift.

Rock Assault

Any and all input is appreciated!

Thanks, Cody

 

[JWaldz]

10" limit strap is the norm for the front of our rigs.. I cannot remember what the rear is. Sonoran steel makes a weld on bracket. Just buy the other parts and you're good to go.

http://sonoransteel.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_11&products_id=23

 

[BigFishAllDay]

This is the setup I went with for the front, big thanks to Dirtco for setting me up w/the parts list.

Limiting Strap Parts List

Whether or not they are a good investment will depend on your setup, and what you're looking to prevent/control by installing them. From the sounds of it, you're just looking for something that will provide and anti-sway function. Unfortunately, limit straps will NOT do that for you. They are only going to come into play when your suspension is at the limit of it's downtravel, which it will never reach simply taking corners on the street.

I'd just put my swaybar back on if I were you.

 

[MX4R]

Also interested in limiting straps for my 99 4x4. Anyone else with strap setups chime in.

 

[Gerdo]

Without limit straps, the shocks are the limiting factor. Personally for rock crawling, they are excessive.If you are dune jumping or desert racing, YES they are very important.

 

[Dous]

Without limit straps, the shocks are the limiting factor. Personally for rock crawling, they are excessive.If you are dune jumping or desert racing, YES they are very important.

After breaking 3 shock studs and wasting 400 bucks, I now believe that limiting straps are a must for the back-end. This was low speed rock crawling mind you, the shocks that broke were Bilstein 5150's.

I have all my parts for my straps at the house and will be installing once I get home for my break. I picked everything up for 60 bucks.

As for the front I couldn't care less, from what I can tell it doesn't articulate anyway!

 

[MX4R]

After breaking 3 shock studs and wasting 400 bucks, I now believe that limiting straps are a must for the back-end. This was low speed rock crawling mind you, the shocks that broke were Bilstein 5150's.

I have all my parts for my straps at the house and will be installing once I get home for my break. I picked everything up for 60 bucks.

As for the front I couldn't care less, from what I can tell it doesn't articulate anyway!

What did you get for the rear? From where? And install pics?

 

[Dous]

What did you get for the rear? From where? And install pics?

I will get some pictures of the finished product this weekend. I picked up double shear mounts from ECGS since they are right up the street. I also ran down to 4WP and picked up the ProComp 18" straps. Total price was around $62. The ProComps weren't my first choice but I wanted the straps right then as I thought I would have time to install, but it had to be pushed back.

The lower mount will attach to the same location the lower shock eye does with an extended bolt...A-La DirtCo

 

[t4r4life]

for roll resistant, straps are pretty useless, for crawling, it's only good if your shocks are too short or you have clearance issue, for prerunning yes they are life savers

 

[Dous]

for roll resistant, straps are pretty useless, for crawling, it's only good if your shocks are too short or you have clearance issue, for prerunning yes they are life savers

Yea I felt like the OP is asking if they function similarly to sway bars in preventing body roll

 

[hakunamatata]

Indeed i was. Thank your for all the input! The only prob. with putting my sway bar back on is the end link broke, thats why it was off. lol but after learning the new facts idt its what i need. I do some crawling but not enough to need the straps on the rear. New rear shocks are next on my list. The Rough Country shocks i got blew so now it sounds like a squeaky covered wagon when driving through parking lots.
Thanks again everyone!

 

[hakunamatata]

Also, I cant wait to see the install pics... :wow2:

I will get some pictures of the finished product this weekend. I picked up double shear mounts from ECGS since they are right up the street. I also ran down to 4WP and picked up the ProComp 18" straps. Total price was around $62. The ProComps weren't my first choice but I wanted the straps right then as I thought I would have time to install, but it had to be pushed back.

The lower mount will attach to the same location the lower shock eye does with an extended bolt...A-La DirtCo

 

[J-money$$$]

Also, I cant wait to see the install pics... :wow2:

Here you go. i took these off my build thread. I have been running the setup for awhile now. I think i installed them sometime in the spring. its been great. Troyboy is also now running the some setup as well. I can't run my current shock without them, with the tokicos they were only there to save the shocks but now the cheap white bodies i have are way too long fully extended.

i bout a set of quad wrapped limit straps with the mounts from ruff stuff. These straps are real nice. I was worried about them being to short but trusted the info on the stretch of the straps and they are absolutely perfect. THey are 18" and stretch to 19" and that leaves me around 3/4" before the shocks maxed out. They are perfect.
Pics

Over all: I used the bottom shock mount. I used a bolt that was about 1" longer so it is way in the mount

Upper mount. Double shear setup with grade 8 hardware

Label on the strap. I was reading somewhere ruff stuff uses a local rock climbing company that makes nylon straps for these. Must be the company's name. Im stoked on the quality. And it was under $60 shipped for 2 straps. 4 mounts and hardware

 

[JWaldz]

^^ I'll be soon to follow this. My 35's stuff in the fender before my shocks limit out but I still don't want to allow that much travel b/c it flexes to the point where the ds hits the gas tank skid.

Another helpful tip, If you cannot get limit straps (no one to weld for you) then I suggest picking up a set of extended rear bumpstops.

 

[zooroadbaja]

Some food for thought. I didn't see it mentioned but limit straps stretch. I forget what it is, but I think it's a 1" every 10".

Also when tightening down the limit straps make sure you droop it out with the straps on then tighten the bolts all the way down.

And the size depends on how and where you mount it.

 

[J-money$$$]

Some food for thought. I didn't see it mentioned but limit straps stretch. I forget what it is, but I think it's a 1" every 10".

Also when tightening down the limit straps make sure you droop it out with the straps on then tighten the bolts all the way down.

And the size depends on how and where you mount it.

depends on the strap but 1" per 12" of strap is the norm. I chose an 18" strap because i wanted it to stop slightly under 20" and it has worked perfectly

 

[Dous]

depends on the strap but 1" per 12" of strap is the norm. I chose an 18" strap because i wanted it to stop slightly under 20" and it has worked perfectly

Yea and it also depends on how stout the strap is. The new Trail Gear Quad-Straps won't stretch much at all, so take that into account if you order those

 

[zooroadbaja]

Yea and it also depends on how stout the strap is. The new Trail Gear Quad-Straps won't stretch much at all, so take that into account if you order those

I had quad wraps on my desert truck, and they still stretched. I think it just comes down to what you're using it for. I don't think a crawler will see the same punishment as an open desert truck.

 

[J-money$$$]

I had quad wraps on my desert truck, and they still stretched. I think it just comes down to what you're using it for. I don't think a crawler will see the same punishment as an open desert truck.

I have quad wrapped straps as well and the stretch i mentioned was for those. The new trail gear steps are 6x wrapped. I would expect less than an inch for a 20" strap with those. No reason to guess though. Just call the company and ask what they rate them to stretch.

and the straps on a crawler see some pretty good force. THey stop the articulation, So they will see some leverage off the axle. I agree desert rigs seem to beat up limit straps. the full stuff to full extension is going to shock them very hard.

You all should take the placement into consideration as well. The force the strap sees will depend on how far out the strap is attached to the axle.

 

[Dirtco]

I mainly run front limit straps to keep the spindles from hitting the coils, but they do have other benefits (Like keeping the CV's from binding). BFAD posted the full part list on the first page.

I run them in the rear because I ditched my sway-bar, and I've seen people rip the upper nut off the shock allowing the rear spring to fall out. I don't want to be that guy, and I don't want to destroy my shocks and/or bushings. I also run a clevis at each corner so I can fine tune the straps, and the amount of stretch they have built into them.