Limited 4Runner must go

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Well, I hoped this day would not come but after 15000 miles, I've decided I can't live with this vehicle any longer. I am a very practical person and financially disciplined so the idea of getting rid of a new vehicle after 15 or so months is really hard for me but I have decided I am not going to force myself to drive something I dislike as much as I do this vehicle. I am going to look at a used Lexus LX570 and a GMC Yukon Denali this weekend, hope to make a deal but we,ll see.

I know some will flame me for posting this but so be it. I spent a good amt of time on this site getting help before I bought, which I appreciated and decided to provide some of my own feedback now that I've been an owner

Vehicle is a 2015 pearl white limited 4x4

First, the good. The things I really like, in no particular order include the look of the truck. I think it is a beautiful vehicle, love the look. Second, reliability records are fabulous. Third, the electronic pkg is nice, though I realize not state of the art. The keyless entry, keyless start, backup camera, sensors, ac seats and a fabulous stereo system are great.

Now, for the things I dislike so much that I must eat the loss and move on.

The ride is horrible on anything other than smooth streets. This is my least favorite thing. The suspension is brutal. Second, the panic brakes are miserable. About once a month, I do something that triggers them and it is unnerving at best. Hate the feature. The engine is marginally adequate. I think a 6 speed tranny would really help it, just doesn't feel very responsive tho if you stomp on it, acceleration is decent. Tranny doesn't feel smooth to me, not bad but certainly not smooth. Last, the seats are hard and not very comfortable in my view.

The good news is, if I didn't buy the 4Runner I would have bought the new Tahoe. It was really too expensive which is the biggest reason I started looking at the 4Runner. Much better value. The Tahoe seems to have been a disappointing new release and the resale value would have been significantly worse for me than the Toyota so not all bad news.
 
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Welp, sometimes you need a good amount of time to figure out if a vehicle is truly for you. It's not fun driving something you don't like, so I wouldn't worry about selling or trading for something else. Good luck.
 
You will fare no better with either of your options. Both are body-on-frame and will offer a rougher ride because of it, just like the 4runner. The larger wheels (20") with less tire don't help either.

I came from a Sierra and had the same touchy brakes that will happen from time to time with the 4runner. I'm pretty sure it's caused from moisture.

Good luck to you.
 
Dude, my Pro with the 2" toytech lift for the Pro rides freaking amazing!! It soaks up every bump and pot hole i can hit. I also jump the truck at a RR crossing near the house!! The suspension is magnificent!!


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Sorry to see you go, but to clarify - you put 150000 miles on a 4Runner in 15 months?


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Agree. The ride quality is because of the twankies (20's). Drive a sr5 . Drives like a boat.

So does that mean I could simply swap out the rims and tires and totally transform the ride? I drove a Denali already it had 20s and rode significantly better, not comparison. The Lexus my friend owns is altogether in a different class but hey, they cost 90k, they should be.
 
Sorry to see you go, but to clarify - you put 150000 miles on a 4Runner in 15 months?


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Your eyes added a zero at the end.......
 
I put E load 17" Toyo A/T on my Limited and noticed no real difference from stock 20" - I would like better ride too but will not run P rated tires. It is a SUV, not a station wagon.

My only real complaint is final drive ratio is toooo high. I repeatedly drive a 50 mile stretch of hilly highway. Damn thing is always shifting to maintain speed. I can live with less clearance so will probably try set of 31" or maybe even 30" tires next.
 
You will fare no better with either of your options. Both are body-on-frame and will offer a rougher ride because of it, just like the 4runner. The larger wheels (20") with less tire don't help either.

You have never driven an LX 570.
 
To each their own! Your complaints are definitely valid, but they come with the trade off that all of us are ok with (considering all of the pro's in favor of the runner).

You're totally right too, the drivetrain is definitely outdated, but it's bullet proof and a tank. Maybe not the most efficient tank but a tank nonetheless.

You didn't mention nosedive though... To me that was basically the only real complaint I had for the truck - & I fixed it. Good luck with the next one! Hopefully you go with the Lexus... Because we all know what domestic vehicles just simple aren't as good. I wonder if the Lexus is built in Japan. The 4runner & the Corolla are the only 2 toyotas that are completely and totally assembled in Japan still & I think that's pretty darn cool.

https://youtu.be/ZlGM88xes8U



AUTOGUIDE just did a "10 least reliable cars" video and 4 Chevy/GMC's made the list... Just sayin... Food for thought


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I got rid of the 20' rims as I thought the truck was twitchy on the highway, installed 17's and it felt much better, the truck also improved power wise at about 60k, must have taken that long to bed in
 
I've read and heard that the Full Time 4WD on the Limited gives it a harsh ride.
With P rated twenties that would be unbearable.
When I was first looking at getting the 4Runner I thought I wanted a Limited but after a lot of research I was sure the TE was the right choice.
I think you have some valid points not the least of which you definately want to enjoy your truck.
I still marvel at mine everytime I get in it as does everyone who rides in it.
IMO if you had bought a TE, pro or even an SR5 and put your personal stamp on it I think you would have found the sweet spot. They really aren't meant to leave stock. A few well planned mods with the cash you saved not getting the Limited you would have had an awsome rig. Good luck to you.
 
2016 SR5 newbie here. 265 duratracs and TRD 17 wheels. Truck rides like a dream.
I guess everyones different. I'm also coming off of driving a 1998 Honda CRV for the past 12 years though....good luck with your next auto venture.
I think new tires (ditch the 20s) would help a ton. I noticed a huge difference even switching from stocks to the duratracs. Next upgrade are gonna be 5100's with a slight lift.
 
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