MAFci Sytem, who is interested?

Unfortunately I will not be interested in such a kit. As I predominantly use it in the lower RPM ranges 3000 or less (where enhanced kits like these offer little adavantage), I also use it quite a bit for offroading where I prefer the conventional intake system for protection against dust and water, lastly I prefer less sound.

But for the more performance orientated folks this might be a good option, especially with SC's, uprated exhausts, etc. The tunable version would be great for people that have done few mods and do a proper dyno run for their 4R's in their environment.
 
Sorry I haven't been back for a while. We just started shipping the mazda6s(v6) kits and they are goin like hotcakes. We made about 23 hp over stock with that kit. I think with a little additional tuning we could make a couple more ponies.
anyways I'm glad to see this thread picking up a little steam. When I get a sec I will go through all the threads and comes up with a list.

jt271
we sent you a pm when you posted the first time. Please check it so we can have you swing by the shop and show you the components that make up our kits and get your opinion on a few things.

Keep the requests coming. If someone could start a thread on yotatech and link it to this one that would be sweet and may get some more interest.

Need a list of 15 still. Oh yeah, what are the differences between the 2003-2004 v8 and 2005 v8.

Thanks,
Josh Adams
301 576 6142
 
cp-e.com said:
Oh yeah, what are the differences between the 2003-2004 v8 and 2005 v8.
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The new V8 (2005 on) has VVTi which the old ones doesn't. I'm not sure how it will affect your product in terms of mechanical fit, but I would imagine the fuel mappings would be different especially at higher RPM. It should however only be a small adjustment between the 2 engines for you rpoduct. I doubt whether Toyota changed the air intake system itself. Most of the work is probably only in the heads.
 
First off, Josh good luck on this project. Hopefully your product will be a kick a$$ item and it will work unlike alot of the junk stuff that are being marketed.

Second off, it concerns me that you need to ask us for what the difference is in a system that you are building for our vehicle.

Lastly as a member here, we all look out for eachother and all I have to say is before everyone jumps in on this project, you might want to give us in good faith one successful product before attempting to get a group going.

Without any proven figures and the actual product on our vehicle I am reluctant to even purchase any such item. This applies to any item in the market. A prime example would be one of those "tornado" intake item (pos thats worthness). They have figures and dyno's to prove it but we all know that that item is a pos. I would hate for everyone to get your item to only find out that it was a shame.

Therefore, I would say you should just work with one member here specifically (ideally someone close to your shop) so they can be a test victim and then go from there. Let the results speak for themselves (i.e. dyno, track times etc etc - I say this because as a vendor you should have all of these resources available for proof) and I'm sure you'll get your 15 if not more since we have a growing community of members here as well as other forums online.

The other concern would be on mpg since gas isn't cheap anymore. There are alot of members here that want the performance but also want to maintain their mpg so research on this would be an added bonus for those members that are interested.

As for linking to yotatech, forums really don't like cross linking between different forums so if you are interested in promoting your product there, please visit each forum directly.

Good luck to you and your company on this venture.
 
Lance,
Great concerns, I would feel the same way. Our priotrity is finding out if this is something people will buy. That is what the list is for. We do not want any money from the list members but we do wanna try to find people that are interested. Now basically the way it works is once we have 15 people then we are allotted the money to work with someone local on the first prototype and see if the gains are there, if they are not the project will be scrapped. It is very expensive to develop the first prototype which is why i need a list to show interest. Then we develop and hopefully gains will come. That way you get your moneys worth.

We opperate on a different set of beliefs than most manufactureres and that is becuase we were consumers before we were manufacturers. We do not want to sell junk and we do not charge before the product ships(two big issues I have with the industry).

The reason I asked about the V8 difference was becuase we are currently working on 3 different intakes and I figured you guys would be able to tell me right away.

VVTi makes no difference, we may even try to turn it on a little earlier to see if we can see better gains throughout the powerband. We like to see big average gains not just peak gains like most advertise.

Thanks,
Josh Adams
301 576 6142

We still need a test car, preferrable a 2003-2004 V8 as that seems to be where the interest is here. If you have a V6 and live in the area please feel free to give us a call also.
 
Again, I would suggest posting at yotatech. Yotatech serves the 4runner, Tundra, Sequoia, and Land Cruiser communities - all of which have the same V8 engine. Also check out other non-4runner forums.

This forum is great, but you are limiting your audience.
 
We have posted over at yotatech and no one is answering, anyone following this thread please feel free to jump over there and chime in.

Thanks,
Josh Adams
301 576 6142
 
Turbo Sounds Good!

Yeah i would really be interested in the turbo, i actually started a thread today asking if it can be done.(http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6539) thats funny that i came across this one in the same day. I guess that shows how much time i have at work on a saturday! Wish i was closer to the area your needing people to come by. O Well. Let me know about the turbo, i have some friends that have a V6 like me and would be interested as well.

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I am interested. I have a 2004 v6. Dont be like every other manufacturer and only go after the V8 engine. Hook a brother up! Nothing pisses me off more when products are only marketed for the bigger engine crowd. There are a ton of people out there with the v6. The V8 already had/may get a superchager->V6 NO! The V8 gets cool aftermarket exhaust systems->V6 NO! See where I am going with this?
 
I would be interested in the 04 V8 versions. I would be happy to help you guys work it out too but I am in Northern CA, not that close to your shop.

I also have significant experience with turbo's and blowers. My Galant VR4 has about 400hp on pump gas, I built it all myself, including tuning the AEM ECU. I would recommend you go with a blower kit a-la the procharger kit. I have found blowers better because they are less complicated, do not need extensive exhaust mods in addition to the intake mods, etc. The intercooled Pro Charger kits are the best for power and reliability. In fact, you may even try to contact them, built a fit kit and use one of their units. Just a thought. Regardless, a blower or turbo would HAVE to be CARB legal, as it cannot be easily removed for emisions testing every year. Tis is another reason I would go to ProCharger, most of their its are legal and they would be able to get one certified very easilly for our application since it will be based on their already certified parts, with different brackets and plumbing. I assume your air intake can be removed relatively easily for SMOG inspections?

For the headers etc, I think they would sell well. Many old style V8's got a gain in HP and gas mileage when they added headers.
 
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As an active member of the most popular Porsche BB in the world, we have seen many of these so called power gain systems come and go.

The standard request from anyone who is serious about buying a system that offers 'x' performance gain is...

Can you please show me your independant test results on a dyno, including all statistical data through the load range, including graphs and data sheets that show times, dates, ambient temperatures, elevation etc.

The test should be completed by an independant tester that has no affiliation with the company marketing the product.

If the company who is marketing the product is not willing to invest the $ into the extensive testing and reporting process, then the consumer should beware.

Naturally the ricer crowd (Mazda, Honda etc) will jump on this type of item (marketing) as they are often very gulible with their money.

If you were to do a search on a product called an E-ram you will find pages of dialogue between Porsche owners and the marketing/development company that ended up with the product being laughed out of the market. Not because the Porsche owners didn't want more hp/torque, but because the company simply could not support their performance increase claims with good statistical data collection.

Giving a forum member here the product being offered in this thread, to test and give their impressions, is not a suitable way to judge whether this product is good or not. There are too many variables, most of which are negated by seat-of-the-pants opinions.

Buyers beware!

My 2 cents.

Notwithstanding this, if you such data, how about posting it here so we can make an evaluation of the actual data. If it proves to be worth data, I think many people, including myself, would be interested in increased hp, especially rear wheel!
 
I would be interested as well. I have a 2005 V8 and also live very close to you. My main concerns for a system like this would be where the additional power comes into play. If it shows a good gain in the low to mid rpm's then it would be worth it. I'd also like to know how the piggy back system would need to be installed. In the case of taking it back to the dealer for possible warranty work, could it be uninstalled easily with no signs of modification?

Thanks,
George.
 
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