Mercedes G-wagen

Hey all,

Due to recent readings, i decided to go out today and make some measurements to my 2004 G500.

My 2004 G500: BFG AT KO 265/70/16 (= 265/60/18 stock) at 32 psi (same as stock psi), stock suspension, gas tank is half full, no passenger.

Ground clearance from:

Both Axle pumpkins (lowest point) = 9.4"
Trailing arm attachment point to axle (next lowest pt) = 11"
Front skidplate = 12"
Frame = 12.7"
Stock Running boad = 13"
SafariGard sliders (in place of running boards) = 13.7"

So, basically, the lowest point underneath is the axle pumpkin and it's at a healthy 9.4". Since the axle pumpkins are both located on the passenger side, you can go over a rock 10.9999" high by passing it underneath the driver's side.

As for wheel travel, rear flex at full extention was about 8" up and 8" down for a total of 16" of travel. Front was much more limited at 4" up and 4" down for a total of 8" of travel. Front axle has sway bar while rear axle is free. (Source: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/g-class/1238763-wheel-size-suspension-travel.html)

Overall, i am a happy camper.:)
 
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Picture of my underbody. Notice that everything is above the frame...tubular crossmembers are welded thru-and-thru both sides of frame (six total). The control arms are attached to the sides of the frame, not underneath, and are protected by small skidplates on the sides...this helps prevent damage to where the arms attach to frame and improve clearance over rocks.
 

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Few pics of military G's on same assembly line as civilian G's:
 

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Rear axle (forged steel control arms)
 

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According to "Matchanu" over at Militaryphotos.net:

"Anyway, the G-wagen kicks serious ass as far as being a production off-road vehicle, far better than a Hummer. We were part of a T&E eval with the Marines at Camp Pendleton a few years back. The Hummer and G-Wagen were tested as well as a few others. The G-Wagen was the top contender. It crawls like nobodies buisness.

Budget is a big problem in aquiring these vehicles, (very expensive in compaison to the Hummer). It's a big reason you don't see many of these in the U.S. military."

"Matchanu" is a confirmed NAVY SEALS. He has been checked out by other people to confirm that he is a real SEAL, not like me (wannabe SEALS).
 
What is perhaps the strongest character in the Mercedes-AMG model range has been given a shot in the arm. Increased to 368 kW/500 hp, the output of the G 55 AMG now exceeds that of the predecessor model by 18 kW/24 hp. At the same time this classic cross-country vehicle has been treated to enhanced standard equipment which includes new AMG light-alloy wheels, bi-xenon headlamps, foglamps with a cornering light function and new paint finishes with greater scratch resistance, based on nano-technology.

The increase in output from 350 kW/476 hp to 368 kW/500 hp is due to an enhanced and retuned engine control unit. The supercharged 5.5-litre AMG engine generates its maximum torque of 516 lbs-ft between 2750 and 4000 rpm. These exceptional figures are a guarantee of effortless performance: the G 55 AMG accelerates from zero to 60 mph in just 5.3 seconds (preceding model: 5.6 s), the maximum speed remains 130 mph (electronically limited). The AMG sports exhaust system with its two oval twin tailpipes emerging at an angle in front of the rear wheels, as well as the characteristic AMG V8 sound, provide an ample visual and acoustic indication of the engine power to be expected of the G 55 AMG Kompressor.

Both on and off-road, the G 55 AMG gives its occupants a feeling of serenity, exclusivity and dynamic potential. As always, the classic among Mercedes-Benz off-roaders provides a convincing synthesis of highly efficient drive and dynamic handling control systems. In addition to permanent all-wheel drive with a low-range gearbox, the standard appointments include the electronic traction system for all-wheel drive 4ETS, the Electronic Stability Program ESP
 
Old Review of G500 in 2002

Mercedes-Benz G500 conquers all terrain as no-compromise SUV

Bob Plunkett
Date Posted: 5/10/2005

GRAZ, Austria -- On the south side of Graz, Austria's second largest city etched along banks of the River Mur as it trickles out of the Alps, workers at the vast Magna Steyr automotive assembly plant construct Chrysler and Mercedes-Benz vehicles for markets in Europe and the Middle East.

Chrysler's minivans and PT Cruisers roll off these assembly lines, as do Jeep Grand Cherokees and the Mercedes ML Class of sport-utility wagons plus mid-size E-Class Mercedes sedans and station wagons.

In back of the sprawling Steyr plant, a separate structure houses a special facility. For the past quarter of a century, workers in this small shop have used hand assembly techniques to construct in limited quantities a unique and versatile sport-utility wagon for Mercedes badged by the cumbersome name of Gelaendewagen, a German word that means off-road wagon.

Built on a rugged steel frame and bearing a body composed of angular metal panels that come together to form a rather tall but boxy package, the Gelaendewagen has become an essential motor tool for mobile armies around the world.

It's an ultimate go-anywhere vehicle designed for the most serious off-pavement applications in military and police patrols, as well as governmental and industrial units -- and even the Vatican depends on Gelaendewagen, as the Pope-mobile is constructed off a G-wagon chassis. In the private sector in certain elite circles among sportsmen, the G-wagon has also become the prized trophy vehicle for cruising remote backwoods regions so rugged that conventional sport-utility wagons would never work. It can scamper up or down a grade as steep as 36 degrees, or traverse a slope canted to an angle of 24 degrees.

And it's the only four-wheel-drive vehicle equipped with three locking differentials -- one each for front and rear axles plus the interconnecting drive shaft. Add high and low gearing with full synchronization even for the low range so you may shift into low while moving up to about 15 miles an hour.

You might encounter privately owned Gelaendewagens prowling the autobahns of Germany, making tracks on sand dunes in Saudi Arabia or crossing the plains of Africa, but only a few have trickled into the United States because until recently Mercedes never imported them.

Such limitations change now that Mercedes has added a deluxe version of the Gelaendewagen to the North American product line for 2002.

In place of the tongue-twisting Gelaendewagen nameplate, this new wagon is labeled simply as the G500.

Production at the Magna Steyr plant virtually doubles to 36 trucks per day with a second shift added to accommodate the Americanized version. It's fitted with a plush leather-lined cabin, the complete Mercedes complement of sophisticated electronic vehicle controls and a powerful V8 engine.

The single-cam 5.0-liter aluminum V8 in G500 produces 292 hp at 5500 rpm and torque of 336 lb-ft spread between 2800 and 4000 rpm.

That muscle is channeled through a five-speed automatic transmission with the Mercedes clutch-less Touch Shift controller for one-tap shifting to one gear at a time.

Following a morning visit to the Magna Steyr assembly line, we selected a G500 prototype and spent the rest of the day steering it across diverse terrain in foothills of the nearby Alps.

Pavement courses varied from cobblestone streets in Graz filled with stop-and-go traffic to smooth asphalt on the A2 autobahn and bumpy patches on narrow two-lane back roads such as route 72 that winds from Weiz through picturesque villages of Oberrosenberg and Fasslberg.

A trek away from pavement occurred at the 3000-foot Schockl ski mountain situated some 30 kilometers north of Graz, where a boulder-littered sluice shooting up the mountain is used year-round by Gelaendewagen engineers as a test track for durability and agility studies.

At freeway pace our G500 felt strong and powerful, despite bulky body styling and the mass of more than two and a half tons of steel hurling along the autobahn.

At lesser speeds on curvy roads draped around the mountains, the wagon surprised us with an agility uncommon for such a tall and hefty vehicle. It zigged smartly through each turn with lateral body sway tightly checked. However, it wasn't until we pointed the prow up the Schockl off-road chute that the most impressive aspects of G500 emerged. It's simply an uncanny off-road vehicle, capable of bumping and grinding its way across the most daunting terrain -- and without a squeak of protest from so many hand-fitted body parts.

On the roughest sections, we shifted into low gear while rolling, then played three toggles mounted side-by-side high center on the dash to switch the three locking differentials on and off as needed to maintain forward momentum. Despite a treacherously steep grade and too many boulders and sawed pine trunks littering the course, we eventually emerged unscathed on top of the Schockl.

Then Erwin Wonisch, a veteran Schockl vehicle test engineer, took the wheel and showed us on a plunge down the mountain how a G500 can cover the same course at three times the speed for our uphill run.

Picture a steep and twisted two-track trace cut through a thick grove of pines and filled with two-foot-tall rocks of unforgiving granite, then hold on with all you're worth as the speedometer on our G500 passes the mark of 40 miles an hour.

You'd have to see it to believe such a feat possible.

Despite its off-road superiority, the G500 employs a simple suspension with rigid axles front and rear braced by longitudinal and transverse control arms. Gas-pressure shock absorbers and coil springs cushion the ride as enormous 18-inch alloy wheels can travel abnormally tall distances vertically to scamper over rocks and roots on a trail.

Power-assisted disc brakes tie to anti-lock and traction control systems, with Brake Assist aboard plus electronic brake force distribution and an electronic stability control program.

In the spacious cabin, a center console separates two front bucket seats that stand in front of a bench for three.

Each G500 packs all of the features of a refined luxury car. Standards include leather upholstery and rich burl walnut trim, a wood-and-leather steering wheel, front seats that adjust ten ways through power controls with memory settings, heated seats in front and back, central locking for doors and an automatic climate system. Further, a GPS navigation system mounts in the console, as does a nine-speaker audio kit with six-disc CD changer. The MSRP for a no-compromise G500 tallies to $73,165.
 
Here is my post on another forum:

As you may know, i have always wondered where Mercedes get their stats on our 463 G-wagens. The MBUSA brochure lists ground clearance to be 8.3" and angles of 36/27 (approach/departure). Recently, i was looking at an old picture that we all have seen: (see below)

Well, if you look at the left lower corner of the pic, then you will see that the specs for the pic is for a G with 255/65/16 (29") tires. If you convert mm to inches, then you will see that MBUSA measurements are very close (if not exactly the same) as these measurements.

So, current factory G-wagens come with 265/60/18 tires which is equal to 31" tires. So, if you were to add 1" to the height (due to larger stock tires) of the G in the picture above, then you will come up with a ground clearance that is much closer to what i actually measured on my G...9.3" inches (i measured 9.4").

In addition, stock G's approach/breakover/departure angles will be around 36/25/31. This is confirmed in my off-roading where i felt that my departure angle is significantly better than 27" degrees quoted in the brochure.

So, basically, Mercedes messed up on the stats in the MBUSA brochure & website. MB does not really care about G500's off-road stats...it is clearly not MB's priority.

G-wagen is MB's bastard stepchild!
 

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Thai said:
The new 2007 G55 AMG:
G55_AMG_3w.jpg

I thought MBZ replaced this with a "bubblier" version that matches their little SUV. I was so bummed to hear that because I really dig these rigs, but it looks like it's still alive for 07. Good news!
 
mikestang said:
I thought MBZ replaced this with a "bubblier" version that matches their little SUV. I was so bummed to hear that because I really dig these rigs, but it looks like it's still alive for 07. Good news!

You're half right. Before 2005, the story was that the G-wagen will end it's civilian life in 2006. However, due to protests among the enthusiasts worldwide, Mercedes has committed to continue production until 2010. The military version will continue on till 2025 (military contract).
 
What they should do is sell the military version for the $30-odd K cited in this thread to 4x4 nuts. Of course, then, they wouldn't be able to meet demand.
 
Another pic on RTI ramp (lockers made this pic possible)
 

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Baba Booey said:
Did you measure the RTI? If so, what was it?

No, it was a sandy place (not exactly level ground). In addition, i did not know what degree the ramp was...it was much higher than the normal 20 degree ramp that you see in these type of measurements.

I do know that on THAT ramp, i was able to go up it the same distance as my friend's (TEXGX on this forum) Lexus GX470 KDSS.
 

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