Mile Marker 95-29918 Manual Hub Conversion

[Tyler James Inc]

The kit is listed to fit my 97 4Runner, and is only $60.
It doesn't seem right to me at all though.
Does anyone know if this Mile Marker 95-29918 kit(Made In The USA) actually has what I need to convert to manual hubs?!
I have been looking to source all the OEM parts from a Tacoma, but this would be far easier- if it actually works.

Does anyone have experience with this kit?
Thanks in advance [emoji1360]

Link-
http://www.amazon.com/Mile-Marker-95-29918-Conversion-Automatic/dp/B000FQ7WI2

 

[Tyler James Inc]

A 4x4Wire article says converting ADD to manual hubs is as easy as just bolting the hubs on- don't even have to remove the wheel!

Yet, the Sonoran Steel site has a list of the OEM Tacoma parts needed for the swap-

I feel like a complete idiot right now trying to figure this out [emoji23]
I've been into Toyota trucks/4Runners since I straight axled my dads '91 pickup when I was a sophomore in HS- 15 years ago. I did a 3.4 and manual trans swap, dual cases, and flat belly on my 92 4Runner.
I'm not claiming to know-it-all by any means, but I'm not a complete noob either.

 

[Chim]

A 4x4Wire article says converting ADD to manual hubs is as easy as just bolting the hubs on- don't even have to remove the wheel!

I feel like a complete idiot right now trying to figure this out [emoji23]
I've been into Toyota trucks/4Runners since I straight axled my dads '91 pickup when I was a sophomore in HS- 15 years ago. I did a 3.4 and manual trans swap, dual cases, and flat belly on my 92 4Runner.
I'm not claiming to know-it-all by any means, but I'm not a complete noob either.

The first image would be a hub conversion for example my 1987 4runner that has auto hubs that you can swap to manual.

Our third gens don't have auto hubs its handled at the diff. Do a hub conversion search on this site and you will find its more extensive than just swapping hub bodies.

 

[PhdNPrerunners]

The first image would be a hub conversion for example my 1987 4runner that has auto hubs that you can swap to manual.

Our third gens don't have auto hubs its handled at the diff. Do a hub conversion search on this site and you will find its more extensive than just swapping hub bodies.

Your information is incorrect, 3rd gens do have auto hubs. Swapping to a manual hub body with manual axles is all that you need to do for a manual hub conversion. Check out Singtoe's manual hub swap and he didn't have to do anything to the front diff.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/87516-aisin-manual-locking-hubs.html

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Hold on here guys- his info isn't completely incorrect.
And yes, I am aware the locking is done in the diff.
We do NOT have "auto" hubs. We actually have "drive flanges"- essentially.
Auto hubs were used in the earlier rigs.
Read here-
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/autohub/

It really looks like it's ridiculously easy to convert to manual hubs from ADD equipped rigs.

 

[Chim]

Your information is incorrect, 3rd gens do have auto hubs. Swapping to a manual hub body with manual axles is all that you need to do for a manual hub conversion. Check out Singtoe's manual hub swap and he didn't have to do anything to the front diff.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/87516-aisin-manual-locking-hubs.html

Not to argue with you but we are talking about just putting hubs at the ends of the axle.. you can do it on earlier runners.. you cant just put a hub at the end of the 3rd gen UNLESS you swap hub bodies or completely press the guts out and get tacoma CV axles.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Your information is incorrect, 3rd gens do have auto hubs. Swapping to a manual hub body with manual axles is all that you need to do for a manual hub conversion. Check out Singtoe's manual hub swap and he didn't have to do anything to the front diff.



http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/87516-aisin-manual-locking-hubs.html

Right, that's exactly why I posted this- it appears what he did is not necessary at all...

 

[Chim]

Right, that's exactly why I posted this- it appears what he did is not necessary at all...

I guess I'm confused on your comment...

What singtoe did WAS necessary on third gens.. its more extensive than just swapping a hub body.

The auto hub in the pic is from an early 4runner like on my 87. Totally different than 3rd gens and yes, very easy to swap to manual hubs.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

I guess I'm confused on your comment...



What singtoe did WAS necessary on third gens.. its more extensive than just swapping a hub body.



The auto hub in the pic is from an early 4runner like on my 87. Totally different than 3rd gens and yes, very easy to swap to manual hubs.

Read my screen shot again- the one with the pic of the AUTO hub you mentioned.
It talks about both ADD and AUTO hubs in it. It says with ADD hubs, you literally just bolt on the manual hub and go. With AUTO hubs, you need the little kit with 54mm nuts and washers.

 

[Chim]

As noted above, read this thread for how to do it on a 3rd gen:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/87516-aisin-manual-locking-hubs.html

it should clear up any confusion.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

The info on 4x4Wire is obviously incorrect-
As is the application list on all the sites that sell the Mile Marker conversion kit I mentioned, including Mile Marker's site-
You, obviously, can't bolt a manual hub onto this wheel hub-

 

[Tyler James Inc]

As noted above, read this thread for how to do it on a 3rd gen:



http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/87516-aisin-manual-locking-hubs.html



it should clear up any confusion.

I've read that. It's actually why I posted this thread- as stated above.

 

[Chim]

Looks like you answered your original question then

 

[MStudt]

To clear things up. You CANNOT put manual hubs onto a 3rd Gen without swapping the wheel hubs, and that kit won't help you at all. Plus the 4x4wire post you're talking about is not for a 3rd Gen. It's actually for the 1st Gen's.

In order to put manual hubs no our 3rd Gens you'll need to get wheel hubs from a 95-04 Tacoma, and from the base models. You'll also need to get the CV shafts from a 95-04 Tacoma, and new wheel bearings. You'll have to press out your old hubs, and replace with the non-add hubs. This is done only if you want to keep your ABS.

If you don't care about the ABS then you can get the entire spindle assembly with wheel hubs, and sway them over. If you swap the entire assembly you'll lose your ABS.

This is the link you should use for a good reference. This all the information you'll need to complete the swap.

 

[pauldub]

What are you hoping to gain with manual hubs?

 

[michaelj]

What are you hoping to gain with manual hubs?

I have always wondered this same thing. I had manual hubs on my 85 Jeep CJ7. Every other 4WD vehicle I have had since had automatic. I have always thought that the auto locking hubs were convenient. Unless it is a reliability issue, then I get it I suppose.

 

[MStudt]

I have always wondered this same thing. I had manual hubs on my 85 Jeep CJ7. Every other 4WD vehicle I have had since had automatic. I have always thought that the auto locking hubs were convenient. Unless it is a reliability issue, then I get it I suppose.

There are some benefits, and some disadvantages too. Having manual hubs will decrease the wear on CV's since they're only going to spin when you're in 4wd. It's also been said that the CV's are a bit weaker.

 

[Chim]

From what I have read if you break a CV with manual hubs you can still drive off the trail whereas if you don't have manual hubs you pretty much have to fix it before continuing..