Moab Trip ***A LOT OF PICS***

[nquaint]

I agree with learning about your vehicle and what it can do. The other day I took kellog out and had him go some places in his stock Runner that he never thought the truck could do. None of it was real dangerous but surprising in a stock vehicle.

Another tip when you find one of your rear wheels lifting like that is smooth very minor brake pedal changes. If you find yourself stabbing the brakes quickly is a good way to cause the front end to load even more and unweight the rear possibly pushing you over the safe angle limits. Stay calm and make minor corrections and not panicked reactions.

Yes I think the biggest thing is to know the actual angle limit and trust that, while using all the above techniques to minimize it. Using your own pucker factor meter isn't all that accurate or consistent. For me after I learned to smoothly control my braking it really helped to lessen the rear end from popping up into uncomfortable angles when going down a steep obstacle.

 

[Spencer]

Hey snow, being from a mud state I have no clue about rocks or sand whatever it is in the moab like sandy rocks? Anyways do the m/t give you better grip on the sandy rocks... I might go with a/t even though what's best down here is m/t and a/t won't be much better than slicks. Anyways you think you could attemp the same thing with a/t out there?

 

[sn0wrunner]

Anyways you think you could attemp the same thing with a/t out there?

Yeah, I think an a/t tire would do just fine. From my experience the a/t I've had in the past are no doubt better in the snow than the m/t I have now. I'm sure they'd do great on the rock.

 

[glenyoshida]

I'm with snow. There's a lot of different opninions about this but when it comes to slick rock the softness and stickyness of the rubber compound has a lot more to do with traction than anything. I wouldn't be concernded about running ATs one little bit.

 

[nquaint]

yeah ATs hold up fine on the rocks here in socal, I agree that its better to have more rubber touching the rocks for better traction. And since we deal with mud like once a year at most they are great haha.

 

[glenyoshida]

yeah ATs hold up fine on the rocks here in socal, I agree that its better to have more rubber touching the rocks for better traction. And since we deal with mud like once a year at most they are great haha.

Totally. I have MTs purely for vanity reasons lol. One time in the last roughly 40 trail runs have I actually used the lugs to bite and throw. It did make a difference though. I walked right through and they had to skinny pedal it a few times. If they didn't look so cool I'd just stick with the ATs. I had Yokohama Geolandar ATs and they were great.

 

[stave]

what were your guys PSI at when you guys were driving around down there?

 

[glenyoshida]

what were your guys PSI at when you guys were driving around down there?

I ran at 15 psi. There are sections of deep soft sand.

 

[Gumballf355]

Are any of these 4runners using front lockers?

 

[sn0wrunner]

Are any of these 4runners using front lockers?

Nope, all 3 4runners in this thread are open front and rear.

 

[Gumballf355]

wow, open front AND rear? I was asuming that they were probably locked rears. I have the stock rear e-locker... I'd need to get a lift and bigger tires to hang with you boys tho huh?? Damn all that with open front and rears?? Crap, I'd be scared to get stuck. Any other neccesary mods?

 

[sn0wrunner]

wow, open front AND rear? I was asuming that they were probably locked rears. I have the stock rear e-locker... I'd need to get a lift and bigger tires to hang with you boys tho huh?? Damn all that with open front and rears?? Crap, I'd be scared to get stuck. Any other neccesary mods?

Yeah these things are capable with or without that rear e-locker. But damn do i wish i had one! I'd say a lift and some tires would be necessary to run these trails without major body damage. I tapped my rear bumper a few times on this trip as well. Sliders were'nt too critical for this trip however.

 

[stave]

dude that is so crazy i also thought you all were locked