Moderators Gone Wild

[ndcent]

Out of respect to have the iPhone thread stay "on topic" (lol - just look at it now, not possible) I'm curious about a few things...

Why are there so many moderators? Nine seems like at least seven too many for this section, or any section for that matter. I also don't see SV dude listed as one of them so I'm curious why he's randomly deleting posts?

I also don't believe Thai, albeit given his sheer inability not to bite troll bait, should have been suspended.

Selective enforcement of the rules is bad form.

Also, moderators should steer clear of insulting people both on the forum and off, right? That's just common sense from my years on the world wide web, but maybe I'm missing something? But it's my opinion it takes a well balanced fair and mature person to moderate most forums.

May this be a thread for musings of the odd moderation here and I hope Thai's suspension is lifted.

Cheers!

 

[Koz]

ndcent,

Thai was put in time out because he was rude and offensive (broke the rules). Just because he didn't agree with someone else’s opinion does not give him the right to insult or call people names. Every member on this site has a right to disagree and express their opposing opinion no matter who posted the thread! I'm no troll, if you pull up any of my posts (thousands) through the many years I've been here, you will see that my posts are solely based on sharing and learning about our love for the T4R. You have to admit that Thai does not need to insult or make personal attacks on other members when they disagree with his opinion. Do a search and see how many people he has had this same problem with (MANY). I do agree with the fact that the moderators should have set him straight long ago. You have to realize Thai was (if I'm not mistaken) the originator of this site and when he was in control of the site he would do and say whatever he wanted (and he abused this) and there was no consequences. He became accustom to this and thought he could still abuse this privilege after he no longer was in control.

Honestly, Thai is a very smart and knowledgeable person and he does not need to do this to make his point in a debate. Maybe when he returns he will realize there is no need to be this way.

Koz

 

[mikebontoft]

hey they just get out of it what they put in. At least he's not perma-banned I guess. I have no idea what happened there but I'm sure it was fair.

 

[ndcent]

ndcent,

Thai was put in time out because he was rude and offensive (broke the rules). Just because he didn't agree with someone else’s opinion does not give him the right to insult or call people names. Every member on this site has a right to disagree and express their opposing opinion no matter who posted the thread! I'm no troll, if you pull up any of my posts (thousands) through the many years I've been here, you will see that my posts are solely based on sharing and learning about our love for the T4R. You have to admit that Thai does not need to insult or make personal attacks on other members when they disagree with his opinion. Do a search and see how many people he has had this same problem with (MANY). I do agree with the fact that the moderators should have set him straight long ago. You have to realize Thai was (if I'm not mistaken) the originator of this site and when he was in control of the site he would do and say whatever he wanted (and he abused this) and there was no consequences. He became accustom to this and thought he could still abuse this privilege after he no longer was in control.

Honestly, Thai is a very smart and knowledgeable person and he does not need to do this to make his point in a debate. Maybe when he returns he will realize there is no need to be this way.

Koz

So you are, with a straight face, saying you've had zero intention of trolling Thai in the iPhone thread? Because that is laughable.

 

[aha2988]

So you are, with a straight face, saying you've had zero intention of trolling Thai in the iPhone thread? Because that is laughable.

of course he is he's a "bad ass member"

 

[02SE]

Selective enforcement of the rules is bad form.

This.

I have been a Moderator on other forums, and letting personal biases influence ones actions is poor form.

Here are the rules of this Forum as stated when you register:

By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

There were two threads in recent months about the Benghazi situation, that broke no board rules that I could see. Yet they were deleted.

 

[Koz]

It went sour the minute he started with the insults and name calling! I was tired of it (this has been going on for years) and stood up because there was NO moderators stepping in. Take a good look at how that thread evolved.

Koz

 

[02SE]

It went sour the minute he started with the insults and name calling! I was tired of it (this has been going on for years) and stood up because there was NO moderators stepping in. Take a good look at how that thread evolved.

Koz

You've been giving as good as you get for years, too.

Wasn't it Thai that gave you your custom title at your request?

 

[ndcent]

I have no idea what happened there but I'm sure it was fair.

I'm also sure about stuff I have no idea about.

 

[4Running Daily]

I saw that thread and thought this website had turned into yotatech

 

[aha2988]

It went sour the minute he started with the insults and name calling! I was tired of it (this has been going on for years) and stood up because there was NO moderators stepping in. Take a good look at how that thread evolved.

Koz

It seems to have evolved from an Iphone 5 info thread to a battle royal between you and Thai. You were the first person to even post in the thread and your post was filled with negative information. (if that's not trolling I don't know what is). Thai ignored it. You made a post about a alternative case cool stuff. Thai agreed with your positiveness. Then you battle with him about weather or not the phone is "perfect".... when all in all thai just wanted a thread to post info that he was interested in..

 

[mikebontoft]

I'm also sure about stuff I have no idea about.

Well sure, isn't that modern day thinking?

 

[Thai]

Honestly, Thai is a very smart and knowledgeable person and he does not need to do this to make his point in a debate.

Koz

Thanks Koz...i am glad that you think highly of me...unfortunately, the rest of the stuff that you wrote in that post is pure utter lie...but this really surprises no one about you Koz.
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Admin unbanned me after i showed him some evidence contrary to SV_Dude's bogus claims against me.

Now, lets talk about SV_Dude...we all know that his trigger finger is even more dangerous than i ever was in my younger days. :bravo:

The sad part about SV_Dude is his hypocrisy. Proof? Link: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-topic/130279-smurfed-my-buddy-while-he-passed-out-drunk.html

SV_Dude deleted "bcvanni514" avatar unannounced without ever talking to him before doing it.

btw: I deleted your avatar. Find another one that uses more appropriate language for the forum.

And bcvanni514 has had that avatar for over 2-3 years...until SV_Dude came along with his moderator powers and deleted it without a single damn word to the member before that post. Sad part?

Well, you probably be wondering what does SV_Dude have as an avatar given his good old family-oriented upbringing, right? I wonder the same...but here is his avatar:

Hmmm, things that make you go Hmmmmm...if you're going to act out, then at least look in the mirror before doing it! WTF?!

So, with due respect SV_Dude, stay out of my freaking business since you're clearly bias in your actions!! Watch as he deletes this post too! But, he won't...he's scared now.

 

[SV_Dude]

Admin unbanned me after i showed him some evidence contrary to SV_Dude's bogus claims against me.

Please, show everyone the evidence. There have been several posts by you that were reported from multiple other members. ALL of them were complaining about you and your bashing of other forum members. I have given you warnings before telling you that you need to chill out and stop attacking other members. I gave you leniency because of your history on this forum.

Now, lets talk about SV_Dude...we all know that his trigger finger is even more dangerous than i ever was in my younger days. :bravo:

The sad part about SV_Dude is his hypocrisy. Proof? Link: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-topic/130279-smurfed-my-buddy-while-he-passed-out-drunk.html

SV_Dude deleted "bcvanni514" avatar unannounced without ever talking to him before doing it.


And bcvanni514 has had that avatar for over 2-3 years...until SV_Dude came along with his moderator powers. Sad part?

Well, you probably be wondering what does SV_Dude have as an avatar given his good old family-oriented upbringing?

Hmmm, things that make you go Hmmmmm....

Dangerous trigger finger? I have been more than fair to you and anyone else on this board that I have had to set straight. Every time it has been a simple warning. And yes, I did delete his avatar. If someone posts something that uses foul language then I will delete it with no warning. I didn't give him any infractions for it so I think my actions were pretty fair. If he had it for that long then IMO, the other moderators should have done something about it. Any moderating I have done on this forum is done so strictly within the rules that you agree to when you sign up on this forum. As far as my avatar goes, it doesn't contain any foul language or nudity. It is no different than a girl in a bikini nor does it break any forum rules. If women offend you, then please don't look to the left of my posts.

 

[4Running Daily]

Thanks Koz...i am glad that you think highly of me...unfortunately, the rest of the stuff that you wrote in that post is pure utter lie...but this really surprises no one about you Koz.
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Admin unbanned me after i showed him some evidence contrary to SV_Dude's bogus claims against me.

Now, lets talk about SV_Dude...we all know that his trigger finger is even more dangerous than i ever was in my younger days. :bravo:

The sad part about SV_Dude is his hypocrisy. Proof? Link: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-topic/130279-smurfed-my-buddy-while-he-passed-out-drunk.html

SV_Dude deleted "bcvanni514" avatar unannounced without ever talking to him before doing it.


And bcvanni514 has had that avatar for over 2-3 years...until SV_Dude came along with his moderator powers and deleted it without a single damn word to the member before that post. Sad part?

Well, you probably be wondering what does SV_Dude have as an avatar given his good old family-oriented upbringing, right? I wonder the same...but here is his avatar:

Hmmm, things that make you go Hmmmmm...if you're going to act out, then at least look in the mirror before doing it! WTF?!

So, with due respect SV_Dude, stay out of my freaking business since you're clearly bias in your actions!! Watch as he deletes this post too! But, he won't...he's scared now.

I can't like this enough.

 

[Thai]

SV, isn't evidence enough that I am no longer banned?

Your avatar can very well be considered sexist and offensive to women. I don't care much about avatars; that is probably why that guy's (bcvanni514) avatar was not noticed by lots of folks, including myself. But your hypocrisy in doing your crap is glaring!

Thanks for proving my point though.

 

[aha2988]

Thanks Koz...i am glad that you think highly of me...unfortunately, the rest of the stuff that you wrote in that post is pure utter lie...but this really surprises no one about you Koz.
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Admin unbanned me after i showed him some evidence contrary to SV_Dude's bogus claims against me.

Now, lets talk about SV_Dude...we all know that his trigger finger is even more dangerous than i ever was in my younger days. :bravo:

The sad part about SV_Dude is his hypocrisy. Proof? Link: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/off-topic/130279-smurfed-my-buddy-while-he-passed-out-drunk.html

SV_Dude deleted "bcvanni514" avatar unannounced without ever talking to him before doing it.


And bcvanni514 has had that avatar for over 2-3 years...until SV_Dude came along with his moderator powers and deleted it without a single damn word to the member before that post. Sad part?

Well, you probably be wondering what does SV_Dude have as an avatar given his good old family-oriented upbringing, right? I wonder the same...but here is his avatar:

Hmmm, things that make you go Hmmmmm...if you're going to act out, then at least look in the mirror before doing it! WTF?!

So, with due respect SV_Dude, stay out of my freaking business since you're clearly bias in your actions!! Watch as he deletes this post too! But, he won't...he's scared now.

Spot on!!!

 

[ChildrenOfBodom]

I missed what happened, but I agree that the avatar posted above is not T4R friendly material for a moderator.

ndcent, there's not many of the original moderators still actively moderating. It's pretty much down to 5 of us that I can think of. (Me, SV dude, momo, steezemcqueen, admin) There's a lot of spam on this website and many people to cater to.

If you have a problem with Thai, I suggest you just don't talk to him. Use the ignore function if you must, it's why it's there. What happens with Thai is strictly up to admin and not us.

That iPhone thread was ridiculous and I don't like seeing others participating in the arguments if they're going to complain about it later. Stay out of it or don't complain IMO... this shouldn't even be important.

 

[04rnr]

There have been several posts by you that were reported from multiple other members. ALL of them were complaining about you and your bashing of other forum members. I have given you warnings before telling you that you need to chill out and stop attacking other members. I gave you leniency because of your history on this forum.

This is a PERFECT example, of how a few select members are above the rules here. Rules should be enforced the same to ALL members, period...

 

[SV_Dude]

This is a PERFECT example, of how a few select members are above the rules here. Rules should be enforced the same to ALL members, period...

He's not above the rules. He got banned just like any one else would have. I have given him two infractions. The infractions run on a points system. Once you have enough points, you get banned for a small period of time. I have always given people fair warnings and reminded them of the forum rules before I give an infraction. When the nonsense continues, I give the infractions.