MORE 3RZ builds.......
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maxspeed96ct
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Ill most likely be installing some headers on mine this summer, I'd like to tune the air/fuel aswell. But everything else like a s/c and etc is just to deep for my pockets.
ralatkins
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other projects have slowed me down a couple of times with my runner as well.
why dynomax muffler? same intake that i bought, and saving for the header and LCE intake now. let me know what a difference those mods make.
a s/c is also WAY out of my budget
let's see some pics
steezemcqueen
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I had one if that counts 
ChildrenOfBodom
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We are a rare breed, gents...
Check out Custom Tacos.com if you want to see some sweet 3RZ performance mods.
It's not quite my cup of tea since most of the members have minitruck tacomas that look silly, but they've all got crazy turbo setups to drool over. The 3RZ can run 300+ horsepower on stock bottom end!
I'm still in an early stage in my performance aspect of my build. Hopefully someday, my 4Runner will be the most powerful 4Runner (with original motor) on this board. A built 3RZ will slap a built 5VZ silly.
Check out Custom Tacos.com if you want to see some sweet 3RZ performance mods.
It's not quite my cup of tea since most of the members have minitruck tacomas that look silly, but they've all got crazy turbo setups to drool over. The 3RZ can run 300+ horsepower on stock bottom end!
I'm still in an early stage in my performance aspect of my build. Hopefully someday, my 4Runner will be the most powerful 4Runner (with original motor) on this board. A built 3RZ will slap a built 5VZ silly.
steezemcqueen
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00runr
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I love my 3rz its been great to me over the past five years! There aren't many around especially here in VA and when I tell people its a 4 banger half the time they don't believe me. I haven't done alot performance wise to mine just headers, intake, and exhaust. After the lift and taller tires I went with 4:56 gears. Having a manual definetly helps too!
BigFishAllDay
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@ ralatkins. I chose the dynomax for a few reasons. I refuse to buy.magnaflow because of james[COB] experience. Flowmasters arent for 3rzs in my opinion. And dynomaxs are known for being stockish. Well the super turbo is. I just got a 14 inch. Im not really after sound anyway but ill keep you posted
T4R2014
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x3. Why do the MR2 guys swap 5VZ's instead of 3RZ's?
ChildrenOfBodom
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Guys, guys, let's not all get our panties in a bunch here...
Ever heard of LC Engineering? Basically, the pioneers of performance Toyota motors. They sell accessories for the 5VZ and 3RZ. Every notice why the 5VZ isn't such a supported motor?
They also happen to make full on race blocks that can cost up to $20,000.
Fact is, LC took a 5VZ and loaded it with every bolt on upgrade that LC makes versus a similarly built 3RZ, and the 3RZ handled much better. It created more power (sorry, I don't know exact figures off the top of my head) and proved to be a stronger platform. I've seen a 3RZ running 980hp with a stock crankshaft. That is extremely impressive stuff.
5VZ motors can turn very impressive numbers, but with more work, more money, more time, and nitrous. A motor is not an easy thing to turn into a monster. It takes time, effort, and mostly lots of money. Most every component requires replacement. As far as tuned motors with 100% stock bottom end, the 5VZ cranked out about 400hp and the 3RZ ran almost 600hp.
On the 3RZ dyno run, LC Engineering kept having trouble keeping the tires from slipping. That truck runs 40 PSI sand drags like you wouldn't believe.
Regardless, our axles would snap way before we made any kind of power like that. I didn't mean that I was going to throw a small pulley and some meth injection in my truck and call it a day, my list for engine stuff alone is 4 pages long.
Keeping it basic, give me an ATI super damper to compensate for balance shaft removal, LCE Pro Camshaft Set, Heavy Duty Dual Valve Spring Set, Stainless Steel Lightweight Valves/Street Retainers/Hardened Keepers/Viton Valve Seals, Silicone Radiator Hose Kit, LCE Pro Motor Mounts, +4mm Big Bore Throttle Body, Flexalite Electric Fan Kit, LCE Adjustable Cam Gears, 10 PSI supercharger pulley, methanol injection kit, some heat wrapping, all without a even a single drop of nitrous...
I'll happily laugh at 4Runner V8's all day long.
Questions?
Ever heard of LC Engineering? Basically, the pioneers of performance Toyota motors. They sell accessories for the 5VZ and 3RZ. Every notice why the 5VZ isn't such a supported motor?
They also happen to make full on race blocks that can cost up to $20,000.
Fact is, LC took a 5VZ and loaded it with every bolt on upgrade that LC makes versus a similarly built 3RZ, and the 3RZ handled much better. It created more power (sorry, I don't know exact figures off the top of my head) and proved to be a stronger platform. I've seen a 3RZ running 980hp with a stock crankshaft. That is extremely impressive stuff.
5VZ motors can turn very impressive numbers, but with more work, more money, more time, and nitrous. A motor is not an easy thing to turn into a monster. It takes time, effort, and mostly lots of money. Most every component requires replacement. As far as tuned motors with 100% stock bottom end, the 5VZ cranked out about 400hp and the 3RZ ran almost 600hp.
On the 3RZ dyno run, LC Engineering kept having trouble keeping the tires from slipping. That truck runs 40 PSI sand drags like you wouldn't believe.
Regardless, our axles would snap way before we made any kind of power like that. I didn't mean that I was going to throw a small pulley and some meth injection in my truck and call it a day, my list for engine stuff alone is 4 pages long.
Keeping it basic, give me an ATI super damper to compensate for balance shaft removal, LCE Pro Camshaft Set, Heavy Duty Dual Valve Spring Set, Stainless Steel Lightweight Valves/Street Retainers/Hardened Keepers/Viton Valve Seals, Silicone Radiator Hose Kit, LCE Pro Motor Mounts, +4mm Big Bore Throttle Body, Flexalite Electric Fan Kit, LCE Adjustable Cam Gears, 10 PSI supercharger pulley, methanol injection kit, some heat wrapping, all without a even a single drop of nitrous...
I'll happily laugh at 4Runner V8's all day long.
Questions?
BigFishAllDay
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No questions here. I was buying stuff from LC engineering for my 22R when you were in grade school, so yes I'm familiar with them.
Remember that HP is not everything, and that high HP dyno queens don't always equate to street performance. It's about the torque/HP curve from idle to redline, not just the peak.
No panties were bunched, but that's some big talk and an even bigger list, and an even bigger wad of cash you're going to have to drop just to hang w/a lightly modded 5VZ. Not to mention that when you start upping power into that 400 hp range, it's not just the engine that needs upgrading... I hope you have just as much coin to go through the rest of your drivetrain. By the time you're done, you'll have 50K in your 4Runner, which could have easily bought you a used Porsche Cayenne Turbo that would spank your 'Runner all day long, and still have 10-20k in your pocket.
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MDST
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The 3RZ stock crankshaft is forged. That`s way holds so much!
COB, why you recommend an ATI super damper to compensate for balance shaft removal?? I want to do a balance shaft removal to my 3RZ.
I have some mods in my 3rz and the engine numbers now are very good:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/104420-2-7-mods.html
My next future engine mods are ( thanks to MF Baker ):
- Headwork
- Camshaft - 2RZ/3RZ Stage-2 Camshaft Set
- High Performance Pro Valve Train Kit 2RZ/3RZ ( 31mm shim under bucket )
- Balance Shaft Removal Kit - 3RZ
I'm not going to put a turbo or sc. Any of them in the long run, would give me problems I think.
Cheers
PhdNPrerunners
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Well there might be another 3rz 4runner on this forum after tomorrow. There is a local guy that has a 96 4x4 4runner for sale that has 210,000 on the clock and his dad was the original owner. He is asking way too much for it but I am sure I will be able to talk him down. After seeing this thread and going over to custom tacos it seems like the 3rz is a really good motor for power but a 4x4 manual 4runner is a PITA to find!
ChildrenOfBodom
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I guess there's really no way to compensate for Balance Shaft removal...
Since it's a different kind of movement, the ATI super damper would just make things a little more comfortable, especially for the belt driven goodies...
They say that Balance shaft removal won't do any harm to the motor, but I have my doubts... Oh well. Long time before I'll have enough money to even worry about the engine.
