Motive Power Bleeder- OK to Use 5th Gen for Brake flush ?

[GNB]

I have used Motive Products Power Bleeders to flush several of my vehicles over the years ( Volvo; Toyota, a Corvette).

I did a search , and apologize if I missed a posting on this subject.

Is there anything that precludes the use of the Motive Power Bleeder on the 2015 Runner TRD?

 

[kgbagent]

i use it on a 4th gen. I've been meaning to contact Motive to get a Toyota-specific cap adapter since I use the generic adapter on my 2005 4R. It can be a pain to rig up tight enough to contain the pressure, but once that is done it works like a charm. I never use the pump-the-brake method to bleed brakes in any of my cars.

 

[GNB]

Agreed, the universal Motive adapter which I've had to use on my 2002 Sequoia is touch and go insofar as getting a tight leak proof fit. But I always manage to get it.

Are there any special considerations of the 5th Generation 4Runners for brake flushing? I thought I might have read there is some system reset that only the dealer can do? I hope I misunderstood??

 

[1jzgte]

waste
of
****in
time
and
money

i had one and i tossed that shit.. then i kicked myself for throwing it away because i could've converted it to fill my differential fluid

you'll spend 20 minutes trying to get the universal cap to fit and then another hour after cleaning up the puddle on the floor because it didnt fit

i had my 3 year old help pump my breaks as i cracked open the bleeder.. super proud dad moment btw... i cant remember if its fronts or rears that actually has an electronic pump..
i didnt even have to remove the wheel or jack my vehicle

plenty of clearance to bleed w/ wheels on the ground

 

[The Waco Kid]

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-BA10-Adapter-Toyota/dp/B004IQ96RK/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004IQ96RK&pd_rd_r=f2be84c5-b5ff-11e8-ad5d-f9d1f1abea37&pd_rd_w=MawAn&pd_rd_wg=VEDi0&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=56838e6b-66d4-41e0-a762-743f1a1a628a&pf_rd_r=7TBKKV4ZN69RX6SJ7GFE&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=7TBKKV4ZN69RX6SJ7GFE


or

https://www.amazon.com/Large-Toyota-Master-Cylinder-Adapter/dp/B004IQHQZE
???

 

[JAXJeremy]

I've used the motive bleeder before on my offroad rig (Bronco) and it was always PITA to get it to seal..just wound up getting the russell speed bleeders. Easy to use and no as much wasted fluid.

 

[The Waco Kid]

I've used the motive bleeder before on my offroad rig (Bronco) and it was always PITA to get it to seal..just wound up getting the russell speed bleeders. Easy to use and no as much wasted fluid.

What was the part # you used? Their website doesn't list compatibility for anything later than the 3rd gen.

 

[GNB]

I am familiar with the universal fittings, it is a little tricky to get a seal but I have always managed to get it to work on several vehicles.

Aside from that , are there any particular issues with the 5th generation 4Runner ? Such as a computer reset or something? I am remembering someone posting something about it?

 

[MossJenks]

Not sure why everyone seems to have a problem with the universal adapter in general. You just have to get the chain directly under the cap and tighten evenly. Works great for me.

That being said I couldn't figure out how to get the chain under the MC on my 5th gen at all so didn't end up using it. If I got a Toy specific cap I would though.

 

[kgbagent]

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-BA10-Adapter-Toyota/dp/B004IQ96RK/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004IQ96RK&pd_rd_r=f2be84c5-b5ff-11e8-ad5d-f9d1f1abea37&pd_rd_w=MawAn&pd_rd_wg=VEDi0&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=56838e6b-66d4-41e0-a762-743f1a1a628a&pf_rd_r=7TBKKV4ZN69RX6SJ7GFE&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=7TBKKV4ZN69RX6SJ7GFE


or

https://www.amazon.com/Large-Toyota-Master-Cylinder-Adapter/dp/B004IQHQZE
???

Thanks, that looks nice but it costs as much as the whole Motive setup itself!

 

[DougR]

Russell Speed Bleeders

Regarding the Russell Speed Bleeders mentioned by JAXJeremy … the Russell catalog does not list 5 Generation fitment. Has anyone bought Russell Speed Bleeders for their 5th Gen? Does Russell part number 639560 fit?

 

[Lester Lugnut]

About a yr. ago - the Motive Bleeder web site specifically stated their unit would not work with the 5th Gen setup. Maybe things have change.

Regardless, you do not need anyones gadget. The ability to bleed/flush the 5th Gen 4Rs brakes is built into the vehicle.

Look up the 2010 FSM pointed to years ago here by a member named nashman69. In the brake section you'll find instructions for bleeding/flushing w/o any special tools. Your foot is the special tool.

If you don't feel up to that, here's a write-up from tacomaworld.com. Some 2nd Gen Tacoma's had the same setup as the 5th Gen 4Rs. In this thread, the TW member uses the method I just mentioned, but he also swaps out the bleeders with speed bleeders. This in my opinion is a waste of time. Since Toyota gave us a simple way to bleed/flush our 5th Gen 4Rs brakes, I am at a loss for why someone would want to add speed bleeders for this situation. Follow his post(1st one in thread) - just ignore the speed bleeder part. Keep your stock bleeders unless they are in need of replacement.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-4x4-trd-off-road-with-speed-bleeders.368080/

 

[Bootleg]

About a yr. ago - the Motive Bleeder web site specifically stated their unit would not work with the 5th Gen setup. Maybe things have change.

Regardless, you do not need anyones gadget. The ability to bleed/flush the 5th Gen 4Rs brakes is built into the vehicle.

Look up the 2010 FSM pointed to years ago here by a member named nashman69. In the brake section you'll find instructions for bleeding/flushing w/o any special tools. Your foot is the special tool.

If you don't feel up to that, here's a write-up from tacomaworld.com. Some 2nd Gen Tacoma's had the same setup as the 5th Gen 4Rs. In this thread, the TW member uses the method I just mentioned, but he also swaps out the bleeders with speed bleeders. This in my opinion is a waste of time. Since Toyota gave us a simple way to bleed/flush our 5th Gen 4Rs brakes, I am at a loss for why someone would want to add speed bleeders for this situation. Follow his post(1st one in thread) - just ignore the speed bleeder part. Keep your stock bleeders unless they are in need of replacement.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-4x4-trd-off-road-with-speed-bleeders.368080/

I mean, how can you argue with this post. After reading the procedure I don't see how any method could be easier. Plus, ya know... free.:thumb:

 

[1jzgte]

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Probe-BA10-Adapter-Toyota/dp/B004IQ96RK/ref=pd_sim_263_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B004IQ96RK&pd_rd_r=f2be84c5-b5ff-11e8-ad5d-f9d1f1abea37&pd_rd_w=MawAn&pd_rd_wg=VEDi0&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=56838e6b-66d4-41e0-a762-743f1a1a628a&pf_rd_r=7TBKKV4ZN69RX6SJ7GFE&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=7TBKKV4ZN69RX6SJ7GFE


or

https://www.amazon.com/Large-Toyota-Master-Cylinder-Adapter/dp/B004IQHQZE
???

now youre at about 200 dollars for the set up

 

[JAXJeremy]

What was the part # you used? Their website doesn't list compatibility for anything later than the 3rd gen.

should have clarified, the speed bleeders went on my off-road rig..not sure about fitment for the 4Runner.

 

[Mutant138]

About a yr. ago - the Motive Bleeder web site specifically stated their unit would not work with the 5th Gen setup. Maybe things have change.

Regardless, you do not need anyones gadget. The ability to bleed/flush the 5th Gen 4Rs brakes is built into the vehicle.

Look up the 2010 FSM pointed to years ago here by a member named nashman69. In the brake section you'll find instructions for bleeding/flushing w/o any special tools. Your foot is the special tool.

If you don't feel up to that, here's a write-up from tacomaworld.com. Some 2nd Gen Tacoma's had the same setup as the 5th Gen 4Rs. In this thread, the TW member uses the method I just mentioned, but he also swaps out the bleeders with speed bleeders. This in my opinion is a waste of time. Since Toyota gave us a simple way to bleed/flush our 5th Gen 4Rs brakes, I am at a loss for why someone would want to add speed bleeders for this situation. Follow his post(1st one in thread) - just ignore the speed bleeder part. Keep your stock bleeders unless they are in need of replacement.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-4x4-trd-off-road-with-speed-bleeders.368080/

Learn something everyday on here. Literally the coolest piece of news. I have never bleed brakes on a vehicle as easily as this. Is it weird that I can't wait to swap fluids?

 

[GNB]

now youre at about 200 dollars for the set up

Which of the two adapters sold off Amazon are pictured? One is $51 the other larger one is $80 something.

I already own the Motive Pump, so not $200 for me.

 

[GNB]

About a yr. ago - the Motive Bleeder web site specifically stated their unit would not work with the 5th Gen setup. Maybe things have change.

Regardless, you do not need anyones gadget. The ability to bleed/flush the 5th Gen 4Rs brakes is built into the vehicle.

Look up the 2010 FSM pointed to years ago here by a member named nashman69. In the brake section you'll find instructions for bleeding/flushing w/o any special tools. Your foot is the special tool.

If you don't feel up to that, here's a write-up from tacomaworld.com. Some 2nd Gen Tacoma's had the same setup as the 5th Gen 4Rs. In this thread, the TW member uses the method I just mentioned, but he also swaps out the bleeders with speed bleeders. This in my opinion is a waste of time. Since Toyota gave us a simple way to bleed/flush our 5th Gen 4Rs brakes, I am at a loss for why someone would want to add speed bleeders for this situation. Follow his post(1st one in thread) - just ignore the speed bleeder part. Keep your stock bleeders unless they are in need of replacement.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-4x4-trd-off-road-with-speed-bleeders.368080/

Could you please post a link to the article by nashman69 you referenced having to do with bleeding the brakes?

Also, I see on one of the older posts that bleeding the brakes triggers a check engine light (?). If so, can I clear with my OBD2 scanner?

 

[BobsTrail]

I have the Motiv pressure bleeder, got tired of the mess with the pressure cap and spills. Bought their Vacuum extractor. Not needed for the rear brakes, but way easier and cleaner for the front. Used it on our other vehicles too, no adapters needed. I use it to remove most of the old brake fluid from the master cylinder instead of pushing it down the lines. Good for power steering reservoir too.

 

[1jzgte]

I have the Motiv pressure bleeder, got tired of the mess with the pressure cap and spills. Bought their Vacuum extractor. Not needed for the rear brakes, but way easier and cleaner for the front. Used it on our other vehicles too, no adapters needed. I use it to remove most of the old brake fluid from the master cylinder instead of pushing it down the lines. Good for power steering reservoir too.

i tried the vacuum method from our bleeders too but it seems like something is preventing the fluid from coming out.. weird.. i dont know.. eventually just gave up on that and pumped at the pedals and let the electronic pump do the rest..