How about a lifted Sienna hybrid?
Mpg Mods?
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How about a lifted Sienna hybrid?
perf0rmance
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I will add.... commuting at a moderate speed such as 65mph vs 80mph saved me just under 2mpg on a 200-mile trip. One way was 12.3mpg and the return trip was 14.2mpg. Starting and ending locations were about sea level (destination was a beach).
Sp00ner
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I mean, at the end of the day you require X HP to move the 4Runner at Y speed, and X Fuel to produce Y HP in closed loop operations. The only way to save gas in this thing is to reduce X HP, so drive slower, or reduce the amount of HP needed to go the same speed.
Those options are VERY limited, you're basic options are reduce weight or reduce drag, which is basically the opposite of what you do when you modify the 4Runner to be better off road or for hauling people and things.
Much like trying to get easy HP out of new sports cars, all the easy shit was done by the OEMs at this point. Occasionally you can find something silly that was a platform or parts sharing compromise to save cost at a huge scale, but 99.9% of that stuff is off the table in 2021.
The profile and the 5spd in this thing pretty much kill any options. My Camaro would regularly average mid-30's mpg at 80 mph.
Those options are VERY limited, you're basic options are reduce weight or reduce drag, which is basically the opposite of what you do when you modify the 4Runner to be better off road or for hauling people and things.
Much like trying to get easy HP out of new sports cars, all the easy shit was done by the OEMs at this point. Occasionally you can find something silly that was a platform or parts sharing compromise to save cost at a huge scale, but 99.9% of that stuff is off the table in 2021.
The profile and the 5spd in this thing pretty much kill any options. My Camaro would regularly average mid-30's mpg at 80 mph.
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Sp00ner
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One Highway, Zero City.
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perf0rmance
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classic episode LMAO :rofl:
Sconnie
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canyanero! Canyanero!
Deuxdiesel
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Stock sized and properly inflated tires and hyper-mile driving techniques will yield the best MPG, but also removing any extra gear inside and outside will help as well. At $3 per gallon, increasing MPG from 18 to 19 only saves about $105 based on 12,000 miles per year. If you are getting 12-14 MPG, it would be more significant obviously.
1000MPH
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I averaged 21mpg over 100,000 miles. My average price per gallon was $3.19.
This is a chart based off 100,000 miles and $3.19/gal.
I spent the $6000 I saved on more important things (beer).
This is a chart based off 100,000 miles and $3.19/gal.
I spent the $6000 I saved on more important things (beer).
PHP:
Miles MPG gal price Total
100,000 15 6667 3.19 $21,267
100,000 16 6250 3.19 $19,938
100,000 17 5882 3.19 $18,765
100,000 18 5556 3.19 $17,722
100,000 19 5263 3.19 $16,789
100,000 20 5000 3.19 $15,950
100,000 21 4762 3.19 $15,190
100,000 22 4545 3.19 $14,500
100,000 23 4348 3.19 $13,870
100,000 24 4167 3.19 $13,292
100,000 25 4000 3.19 $12,760
100,000 26 3846 3.19 $12,269
100,000 27 3704 3.19 $11,815
100,000 28 3571 3.19 $11,393
100,000 29 3448 3.19 $11,000
100,000 30 3333 3.19 $10,633
100,000 31 3226 3.19 $10,290
100,000 32 3125 3.19 $9,969
ElectroBoy
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Wow. You are the mileage champ. Do you think deleting the OEM roof rack bars made some difference?
1000MPH
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I doubt it. It’s where I live and where I drive. Many trips up and down HWY 395 where I can average 23mpg really helps pump up the numbers.
Driving HWY 5 between NorCal and SoCal I usually only see 20mpg. Probably due to the 70-80mph average speeds and heavy traffic.
Btw my Michelin tires did not improve my MPGs over the Revos or the OEM Bridgesones. I’ll try to pull the averages based on tires this week if I have time.
I don't know how well it would work on a 4Runner, but when I installed an intake snorkel on a Jeep YJ, I got a 3-4 MPG increase in fuel economy, which is significant. I couldn't believe it at the time.
Supposedly due to cooler, cleaner air feeding the engine. I may do it to my new Gen 2 at some point (I know this is the 5th gen forum).
Supposedly due to cooler, cleaner air feeding the engine. I may do it to my new Gen 2 at some point (I know this is the 5th gen forum).
RichinRidgewood
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Compared the to entire frontal area of the 4Runner the percentage frontal area of the OEM roof rack is very small.
1000MPH
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Wanted to post my average mileage based on the tires I have on the truck.
OEM Bridgestone Duelers: 33547 miles. Average MPG: 21.37
Bridgestone Revos P-rated A/T tires: 37319 miles. Average MPG: 20.91
Michelin Defender LTX: 43182 miles. Average MPG: 20.83
When I first got the truck, I was making a lot of trips down Hwy 395 and avoiding the big cities.
Mileage really reflects that.
Lately, a lot of trips to the coast including I5 travel and Hwy 101 which hurts my average.
OEM Bridgestone Duelers: 33547 miles. Average MPG: 21.37
Bridgestone Revos P-rated A/T tires: 37319 miles. Average MPG: 20.91
Michelin Defender LTX: 43182 miles. Average MPG: 20.83
When I first got the truck, I was making a lot of trips down Hwy 395 and avoiding the big cities.
Mileage really reflects that.
Lately, a lot of trips to the coast including I5 travel and Hwy 101 which hurts my average.
I understand the above, yet ...
... my 4th gen stock 4x4 SR5 4runner with General Grabber AT2 all terrain tires gets 23 MPG highway (in 2WD mode) via onboard computer at highway speeds,
... and the 2021 5th gen is rated for 19 MPG highway?
Seems like a big step backwards. I get that the 5th gen is a bit heavier, but I would have hoped that the tech could have improved.
(Still running the 4th gen at 240K miles, still plenty of power.)
