My 2007 4 runner sliding in street snow

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Re: Re: TR4 Sliding

rook said:
I have Hakka 5's and am happy with them. They provide great snow traction with good dry road handling. I am wondering, though why your Blizzaks are not performing well. They should outperform any other snow tire due to the special microcell compound in the outer half of the tread.

Have the tire dealer check the Blizzaks, maybe there is something wrong with the tread. Also, make sure they are mounted in the right direction, maybe that would account for some of the ill snow handling.

Another vote for tires mounted in the wrong direction. If not, I'd take it to the dealer to get it checked out.
 
Also, make sure they are mounted in the right direction, maybe that would account for some of the ill snow handling. [/B]


In the winter I run Blizzak DM-Z3s. Since I have an SR5 with the smaller brakes I can use 245/75/16 on my steel Tundra wheels.

Blizzaks are a DIRECTIONAL Tire. On each tire the manufacturer prints the word "ROTATION with an arrow.
On each tire the Arrow should point to the FRONT of the vehicle.

From jon9's description I would be willing to bet that one or more tires are not mounted correctly or the tire store did not sell him
enough of the correct direction tires for each side of the 4Runner.

I have used Blizzaks on my 4Runner for a few years now and they work VERY well for me.
I also used them on my vehicles prior to the 4Runner with the same results.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: T4R snow sliding

magnumfan said:
The question still is can 16'' rims be put on a T4R Limited?

From your reply it sounds like it can
I would think that you could put 16" rims on the Limited, since the SR5 comes with them as standard. But I'm not sure of anyone who's tried.
 
Tire Rotation...good catch guys, I didnt think of that

charlier180 said:
In the winter I run Blizzak DM-Z3s. Since I have an SR5 with the smaller brakes I can use 245/75/16 on my steel Tundra wheels.

Blizzaks are a DIRECTIONAL Tire. On each tire the manufacturer prints the word "ROTATION with an arrow.
On each tire the Arrow should point to the FRONT of the vehicle.

From jon9's description I would be willing to bet that one or more tires are not mounted correctly or the tire store did not sell him
enough of the correct direction tires for each side of the 4Runner.

I have used Blizzaks on my 4Runner for a few years now and they work VERY well for me.
I also used them on my vehicles prior to the 4Runner with the same results.

Exellent suggestion

Keep us all posted, I want to know the resoltuion to this

joe
 
Thanks all for the help. I'll check the tires tomorrow for rotation and take T4R to dealer and get the VSC checked. I'll let everybody know what happens.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: T4R snow sliding

jharris2 said:
I would think that you could put 16" rims on the Limited, since the SR5 comes with them as standard. But I'm not sure of anyone who's tried.

FYI, according to the 2008 4Runner Specs tire sizes breakdown as follows:

SR5: Standard = P265/70R16 / Available = P265/65R17

Sport: Standard = P265/65R17 / Available = NA

Limited: Standard = P265/60R18 / Available = NA


One has to wonder if the "Standard" sizes listed is the smallest size wheels that will fit the respective models due to brake sizes used.
 
Rim/tire size and brakes on T4R

charlier180 said:
FYI, according to the 2008 4Runner Specs tire sizes breakdown as follows:

SR5: Standard = P265/70R16 / Available = P265/65R17

Sport: Standard = P265/65R17 / Available = NA

Limited: Standard = P265/60R18 / Available = NA


One has to wonder if the "Standard" sizes listed is the smallest size wheels that will fit the respective models due to brake sizes used.

Hey Charlie180, that was what JHarris about 8 posts above was talking about. In the link he posted was the disc size of the various T4R Gen4 models, It appears the Limited and the SR5 both have the same size and the Sport has the larger discs. I accidentally started this discussion because previously I was told by another member (name escapes me) that the Limited and Sport shared the same discs and the SR5 was smaller. I now beleive that not to be true.

regards

Joe
 
Re: Re: Re: T4R snow sliding

jharris2 said:
Unless there has been a recent change, the big brakes are on the Sport, not the Limited.

My '05 Limited has the 13.3 inch front rotors.
 
Re: Rim/tire size and brakes on T4R

magnumfan said:
Hey Charlie180, that was what JHarris about 8 posts above was talking about. In the link he posted was the disc size of the various T4R Gen4 models, It appears the Limited and the SR5 both have the same size and the Sport has the larger discs. I accidentally started this discussion because previously I was told by another member (name escapes me) that the Limited and Sport shared the same discs and the SR5 was smaller. I now beleive that not to be true.

regards

Joe

Thanks, I missed that link by JHarris to the thread about brakes.

Interesting how the brake disc sizes and wheel sizes for the 4Runner are confusing.
When I purchased my Blizzaks the tire store's info indicated that 16 inch wheels would not fit on ANY 4th gen 4Runner model.
The owner of the company even showed me their industry standard tire book. Needless to say after my 16" steel wheels were
mounted, he made a note in the book about the SR5 with stock brakes being able to use that size.
 
13.3 Rotors

JB. said:
My '05 Limited has the 13.3 inch front rotors.

JB how can you tell?

I just checked my window sticker and manual and can see no reference to Disc sizes

The reason I am interested is I might swap my 18'' rims for a set of 17'' at the next tire change so I can go back to my favorite compromise tire, the BFG A/Ts. Im running Revo's now, they cost me $150 each and the BFG A/T in an 18'' was about $250 each, but drops to like $160 in a 17''

regs

Joe
 
Re: 13.3 Rotors

magnumfan said:
JB how can you tell?

I just checked my window sticker and manual and can see no reference to Disc sizes

The reason I am interested is I might swap my 18'' rims for a set of 17'' at the next tire change so I can go back to my favorite compromise tire, the BFG A/Ts. Im running Revo's now, they cost me $150 each and the BFG A/T in an 18'' was about $250 each, but drops to like $160 in a 17''

regs

Joe

I didn't have a caliper.

I measured the rotor by removing the wheel and setting a tape measure on the floor pointing up. Then I took a level, placed it at the top of rotor, got the bubble on center and "leveled" and used that to set "zero" at the top of the tape measure. Without moving the tape measure, I placed level at the bottom of the rotor, got the bubble center and "leveled". My rotors measured over 13".

Now that I think of it, an easier way would be measure the diameter inside the rim. Then measure the spacing between the rotor and rim, multiply that by two and subtract it from the inside rim diameter.
 
Well, it's not the Blizacks. Tires are installed correctly. Tomorrow I take it to the dealer to have VSC checked...stay tuned.
 
jon9 said:
Well, it's not the Blizacks. Tires are installed correctly. Tomorrow I take it to the dealer to have VSC checked...stay tuned.

VSC is not a system that should need to be checked by the dealer. It runs a self diagnostic at startup. If there is a problem, a light in the instrument cluster would come on. I'm afraid the dealer will find nothing wrong and you'll be out a hundred bucks.

Before you sign the work order, perhaps a service writer can go ride with you and have you duplicate what you are experiencing. From there, they can make a recommendation before you authorize any work.

I just cannot believe a set of Blizzaks on a 4Runner would perform poorly in the snow. Are you spinning out, losing conrol or just occasionally slipping around?
 
Consistantly Inconsistant....

jharris2 said:
Interesting. Nothing like inconsistency to keep us guessing, is there?

just another oxymoron

signed

the department of redundency department



:)
 
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