Necessary lift to avoid the rubbin

[Sup41]

I've decided I want 33's for my 02 4runner 4X4. I've read a lot on the forum today and it seems like even with a 3" suspension + 1" body lift they still had to do some cutting, banging & trimming to avoid the chafe.

How much lift do I need (and type) to avoid any rubbing. I don't want to do any cutting. I am thinking 3" suspension + the 2" body lift should clear me.

I am especially interested in yall's experience of a body lift...how much labor is involved in moving the steering rack, bumpers, etc?

P.S. I realize the width of the tire will likely impact this too, although I haven't learned enough about width to know what I want :wow:

 

[imryannn]

On my first 3rd gen I had a 3" lift and 2" body on 35s and barely rubbed at all, only at full crank and with the suspension compressed.
My current 3rd gen has a 3" lift only and 35s and I only rub on the body in the front behind the fender.
So if I were to have to guess at it, I would clear 33s with just a 3" lift just fine. Just my two cents.

Oh and I have 2" spacers on 8" wide wheels with roughly stock backspacing I believe.


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[Kotrin]

Currently running 33" tires with 3" lift + 1.25" wheel spaces with the recommended -back spacing(4.25, can't remember). I have stuffed my tires and have had no rub at full lock or anything. My father has a set of 35's laying around for his truck I need to try on. I honestly think I could clear them with out a bodylift but I lack the power to spin the tires fast enough to clear them in mud and snow (IMHO).

So I will say the previous owner of my 4runner had a Revtek spacer lift and really wide 20" wheels (I wanted to cry at the amount of stress he did on the steering, felt it on the test drive). But anyways with the really wide tires they would RUB on full lock against the body by both doors.

 

[Sup41]

So it seems like tire width is a big factor in whether or not you rub

Currently running 33" tires with 3" lift + 1.25" wheel spaces with the recommended -back spacing(4.25, can't remember). I have stuffed my tires and have had no rub at full lock or anything. My father has a set of 35's laying around for his truck I need to try on. I honestly think I could clear them with out a bodylift but I lack the power to spin the tires fast enough to clear them in mud and snow (IMHO).

So I will say the previous owner of my 4runner had a Revtek spacer lift and really wide 20" wheels (I wanted to cry at the amount of stress he did on the steering, felt it on the test drive). But anyways with the really wide tires they would RUB on full lock against the body by both doors.

 

[ToyTec Lifts]

I've decided I want 33's for my 02 4runner 4X4. I've read a lot on the forum today and it seems like even with a 3" suspension + 1" body lift they still had to do some cutting, banging & trimming to avoid the chafe.

How much lift do I need (and type) to avoid any rubbing. I don't want to do any cutting. I am thinking 3" suspension + the 2" body lift should clear me.

I am especially interested in yall's experience of a body lift...how much labor is involved in moving the steering rack, bumpers, etc?

P.S. I realize the width of the tire will likely impact this too, although I haven't learned enough about width to know what I want :wow:

ToyTec offers a wide variety of lift options for your 4Runner!

If you are set on 33" tires - you do NOT HAVE to get a body lift.

We were able to fit 33s on a 3" lift without rubbing, but it was close.

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Give us a call if you have more questions!

 

[Sup41]

Can you tell me more about wheel spacers? What are they and what do they do?

Many run 33's without a body lift and little to no rubbing. You really don't need a body lift unless your going up to 35's. 3'' Suspension lift + 1.25'' Wheel spacers with factory wheels typically takes care of it. Rubbing may also depend upon what tires you end up going with.

 

[endgame56]

I've decided I want 33's for my 02 4runner 4X4. I've read a lot on the forum today and it seems like even with a 3" suspension + 1" body lift they still had to do some cutting, banging & trimming to avoid the chafe.

How much lift do I need (and type) to avoid any rubbing. I don't want to do any cutting. I am thinking 3" suspension + the 2" body lift should clear me.

I am especially interested in yall's experience of a body lift...how much labor is involved in moving the steering rack, bumpers, etc?

P.S. I realize the width of the tire will likely impact this too, although I haven't learned enough about width to know what I want :wow:

You'll probably still have to do some cutting, banging, or trimming. Unless you extend the bumpstops, your suspension's compressed position will be the same as before. If you go to aftermarket UCAs in the front, this changes a bit laterally as you have the ability to push the wheel forward in the wheel well. Spacers are sort of zero-sum in that they'll cure rubbing in some areas, but it'll pop back up in others (e.g. front bumper valence).

A lift would help you clear them when driving on the street, but at full compression on the trail, your suspension will be resting on the same bumpstops it did when it was stock. Granted, you may not push the suspension to full compression as often due to a stiffer spring, but when you do, you'll have the exact same pain points you would if you tried to stuff the same sized tire on stock suspension.

 

[AssBurns]

Depends if you plan to take your vehicle off-roading where the suspension compresses a lot. If you are planning to mostly stay on the street and very light off-roading then a 3" suspension lift will be fine. If you plan to take it off-roading a lot then you will either need a body lift or you'll need to cut and hammer some things.
Like what [MENTION=129996]endgame56[/MENTION] said. With just a suspension lift, your wheel will still travel up as far as it did with stock suspension during compression.


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[Bijan]

Depends if you plan to take your vehicle off-roading where the suspension compresses a lot. If you are planning to mostly stay on the street and very light off-roading then a 3" suspension lift will be fine. If you plan to take it off-roading a lot then you will either need a body lift or you'll need to cut and hammer some things.
Like what [MENTION=129996]endgame56[/MENTION] said. With just a suspension lift, your wheel will still travel up as far as it did with stock suspension during compression.


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I off road the p!ss out of mine, on a 3" lift, no body lift, or wheel spacers...

 

[AssBurns]

I off road the p!ss out of mine, on a 3" lift, no body lift, or wheel spacers...

And you didn't do any cutting or hammering?

 

[Bijan]

And you didn't do any cutting or hammering?

hammered the pinch weld and cut a few inches off the plastic wheel well

 

[AssBurns]

hammered the pinch weld and cut a few inches off the plastic wheel well

You obviously didn't thoroughly read what I originally said then haha. I said that if he actually takes his 4runner offroad then he will either need to do a body lift or some cutting and hammering. I had 33's with stock suspension for about 6 months with no rubbing and no BL. Cutting and hammering is the key.