Need 17" wheels with more offset - suggestions please

[frankvh]

Hi all,

Apologies if this has been asked 100 times already; I did look. :bounce:

I have a 2005 SR5 Sport, so it has the 17" wheels. The stock toyota alloy rims. I've put on 265/70R17 BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A tires.

My problem is I cannot install a decent set of snow chains. On the front wheels there's barely any clearance from the inside of the tires to the steering / suspension components. When I install a set of chains (yes, I've tried) the chains hit things I really don't think they should be hitting! :shocked:

I'd like to get a set of wheels that offset out a bit more, maybe about half an inch, to provide additional clearance for the chains. I've seen in these forums that some folks have gone with FJ Cruiser or 5th gen 4runner wheels. How much extra offset do those wheels provide? And what about Tacoma wheels (I've seen Tacoma wheels on my local craigslist)?

I do want to stay with 17" wheels because I want to keep my current tires; they're still in good shape, lots of tread left.

Thanks! I really appreciate any advice.

 

[techoguy]

MK6 level 8 are very popular and you can get them in a 0 or -10 offset.

 

[blaise_f]

You could run a set of Spidertrax spacers to help backspacing, thats what did before I upgraded to set of SCS Stealth 6, it gave me the same offset as a stock wheel with spacers which is basically flush with the fenders

 

[Powder_Hound]

You probably have wheels with a 30 mm offset. To do what your trying to accomplish you'll need to find something with a 15 - 0 mm offset, or get some spacers. However, at 1 1/2" for most spacers you might move wheels out further than you like. With 2.54 CM/inch a 15 mm change in offset should push your wheel outbound by just over 1/2".

 

[Bumbo]

Spacers come in a lot of different thicknesses... you have options if you want to go that route.

I am also someone who has generally tried to avoid spacers, but I have warmed up to them a little depending on the application... and this might be one of them. Its a valid and cost effective option.

Rims are also a solid choice if you want to throw a little money at the problem... but when I do things like that I would just opt for a 2nd set with studded tires because I can't stand chains. That way I can just maintain my summer setup as is.

 

[NinjaOne]

Look at used 5th gen or FJ wheels

They are identical to ours except with a 15mm offset (instead of 30) That's an additional .6" of suspension clearance and they can usually be found for dirt cheap.

 

[ukbloke]

Snow chains should go on the rear wheels. Stock wheels with those tires should be fine for clearance on the rear.


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[frankvh]

Thanks to everyone for their help. Particularly for the offset numbers - this gives me a great idea of what I can expect. I've found a nice looking set of 17" wheels from a 2015 4Runner on craigslist. See the photo. Hopefully they're still available. We'll see what happens.

 

[alia176]

Hi all,

Apologies if this has been asked 100 times already; I did look. :bounce:

I have a 2005 SR5 Sport, so it has the 17" wheels. The stock toyota alloy rims. I've put on 265/70R17 BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A tires.

My problem is I cannot install a decent set of snow chains. On the front wheels there's barely any clearance from the inside of the tires to the steering / suspension components. When I install a set of chains (yes, I've tried) the chains hit things I really don't think they should be hitting! :shocked:

I'd like to get a set of wheels that offset out a bit more, maybe about half an inch, to provide additional clearance for the chains. I've seen in these forums that some folks have gone with FJ Cruiser or 5th gen 4runner wheels. How much extra offset do those wheels provide? And what about Tacoma wheels (I've seen Tacoma wheels on my local craigslist)?

I do want to stay with 17" wheels because I want to keep my current tires; they're still in good shape, lots of tread left.

Thanks! I really appreciate any advice.

From what I understand, FJC has a 13mm offset so that means they stick out by 13mm. 13mm is close to 1/2" so perhaps these wheels would be an affordable alternative to expensive aftermarket rims.

Although I'm a little curious as to what kind of snow conditions are requiring you to chain up the rear AND the front.

 

[frankvh]

Thanks again for the help. I did manage to buy the 2015 4Runner wheels mentioned earlier. They look pretty much new. Cost was CAD$450 (approx US$350) for 4. The previous owner decided to replace his original wheels with black wheels (which looked good on his vehicle). I measured the offset on these wheels; it came to approx 15 mm. I'm looking forward to getting them on my 4Runner.

To answer the side-questions that have popped up in this thread...

I did initially look at spacers. The SpiderTrax parts seem popular on this forum. However I had 2 concerns. One is that the smallest width I could find was over an inch, which is more offset than I'd like. The second is that spacers are sensitive to proper install. If they're not properly installed and carefully checked, very bad things can happen. Like this:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/151197-careful-if-you-install-wheel-spacers.html

Of course I know that everything needs to be properly installed! Including wheels. :tongue: Still, not having spacers means one less thing to worry about. And as already mentioned, I didn't like the spacer widths I'd seen anyway.

A secondary reason for wanting new wheels (versus spacers) is my stock wheels are getting rather corroded and are starting to look a bit crappy. Too much winter salt probably. Installing new wheels would improve the look of the vehicle, which would be a real bonus (particularly for the wife).

As for chains on 4 wheels not 2. I do a fair bit of back-country skiing. So I'm driving up unplowed logging roads in the (sometimes deep) snow. There's a backcountry ski spot I like, and accessing it includes going up (and down) a short but steep hill. Unfortunately this hill also has a side-slope towards a drop-off. With my previous 4x4, with chains on all 4 corners, I've still had some exciting moments when the vehicle has started to slide off across the side-slope, towards the edge. For the 4Runner I've purchased more agressive chains, and yes, for that hill when in those conditions, absolutely 4 of them.

 

[lunchindabox]

I just put those on my 05! It looks sexy. I have a thread somewhere here.

Mine were "take-offs" so they came the tires. Both brand new and with factory TPMS sensors.

I like the look, the truck feels a little higher too, they are 17's but the tire is bigger


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[lunchindabox]

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[Porqupine82]

I love my SCS F5s ... They're negative 10 offset. Keep in mind my tires are only 10.2 inches wide ao your tires will stick out even farther. They also make a deeper offset variation if this isn't enough.

 

[alia176]

As for chains on 4 wheels not 2. I do a fair bit of back-country skiing. So I'm driving up unplowed logging roads in the (sometimes deep) snow. There's a backcountry ski spot I like, and accessing it includes going up (and down) a short but steep hill. Unfortunately this hill also has a side-slope towards a drop-off. With my previous 4x4, with chains on all 4 corners, I've still had some exciting moments when the vehicle has started to slide off across the side-slope, towards the edge. For the 4Runner I've purchased more agressive chains, and yes, for that hill when in those conditions, absolutely 4 of them.

Ahh, that makes sense. The only time I chain up my 80 series is for snow wheeling only. The rear chains were customized with aggressive V bar in between large normal chain links. I haven't wheeled the 4Runner yet.

Nice to see you using your rig to take you to some cool places!