Need advice v6-v8

[unstoppablerc]

V8 all the way

I drive a V8 and its the only way to go dude. Resale on it is better too.

I have driven the V6, but if you can afford it, just go with the V8 model.

 

[MeddlingKids]

Re: V8 all the way

I drive a V8 and its the only way to go dude. Resale on it is better too.

I have driven the V6, but if you can afford it, just go with the V8 model.

Actually, I was looking at the resale values vs. costs of both the V8 and the V6. It actually seems that the V6 is a bit better in that regard.

 

[CVsGX470]

Re: Re: V8 all the way

Actually, I was looking at the resale values vs. costs of both the V8 and the V6. It actually seems that the V6 is a bit better in that regard.

I read that somewhere too but couldn't back it up so I didn't say anything. I think that most just assume the V8 has a higher re-sale. Being a scientist, I don't make claims without an article or some results.
CV

 

[EDGE]

Re: Re: V8 all the way

Actually, I was looking at the resale values vs. costs of both the V8 and the V6. It actually seems that the V6 is a bit better in that regard.

Many things to consider when resale value is looked at, an SR5 V8 model is worth less then a loaded V6 Limited any day of the week.

This is just another pointless V8, V6 battle, the only way a similiar V6 version is worth more is if the V8 has twice as many miles:

 

[jharris2]

So I ordered a V8 and am happy with that decision.

Either one is a good decision. So, as long as you're happy with the decision, then that's really all that matters.

Congratulations on the purchase!!

 

[vandert]

My decision

Was easy,

It didn't come down to v6 or v8, it came down to full or part time 4wd. I've owned alot of 4wd vehicles and the fulltime 4wd is definately harder to maintain in the latter part of the vehicles life, if you plan on getting the Runner and keeping it around 5-7 years and then sell it or trade it off it won't matter, but if you want the longer term reliability in a little better gas milage, go with the 6. This is how I personally feel, no need to beat a dead dog guys and you don't hve to argue my opinion as it's biased to the v6, but if I bought an 05 instead of my 04 when I bought it new, it would probably be the v8 based on the extra power of the vvti being added to the 8.

I break it down like this currently, 05 v8, 03 or 04 v6, thats my .02.

T

 

[4runneraj]

My 2

Hi, I'm fresh off the lot. On Tuesday night I went and drove both a V8 Sport and a V6 4x4 Limited (no XREAS). The V8 is much quieter than the V6 but like some other people I did notice that the V6 felt a little lighter on its feet and had better response. I was convinced I wanted a V8 until I drove both back to back.

My advice would be to look at what your needs are in terms of towing/power/etc etc and then go and drive them until you're fairly certain of what you want. I drove 11 4Runners before deciding on what I wanted to get .

Good luck

 

[EDGE]

Re: My decision

It didn't come down to v6 or v8, it came down to full or part time 4wd. I've owned alot of 4wd vehicles and the fulltime 4wd is definately harder to maintain in the latter part of the vehicles life,
T

Can you explain what is harder to maintain on the Full Time System compared to the Part Time.

The only problems I have seen with part time systems is they develope issue, problems from people who never shift them into 4wheel drive:

 

[Northof49]

Re: Re: My decision

Can you explain what is harder to maintain on the Full Time System compared to the Part Time.

The only problems I have seen with part time systems is they develope issue, problems from people who never shift them into 4wheel drive:

I would also like to know what the problem is with the full-time 4wd system? Seems to be a theoretical advantage some guys have drummed up the last little while....

Seeing's how there's a million full-time 4wd early 90's Corolla wagons with 300,000 miles running around, another million bazillion RAV's, Highlander's, Sienna's, Previas and GX's on the road with VERY reliable (as reliable as any 2wd application) Toyota-built full-time 4wd system, I really don't see any reasonable need for added concern.

If one wants a part-time 4wd system, that's completely understandable, however, stating that the future durability of the V8's system is any worse than the V6's system is complete un-founded hogwash

 

[EDGE]

V6 versions have all the same moving parts as V8's except the front hubs are not engaged like the AWD system but the hubs are still spinning, otherwise eveything is moving how else do people think shift on the fly works.

I can see the argument between a 4x2 and a 4x4 over the long run, but part time and full time

 

[vandert]

Knew this was coming

"Seeing's how there's a million full-time 4wd early 90's Corolla wagons with 300,000 miles running around, another million bazillion RAV's, Highlander's, Sienna's, Previas and GX's on the road with VERY reliable (as reliable as any 2wd application) Toyota-built full-time 4wd system, I really don't see any reasonable need for added concern."

Alright,

All of those that you listed have one thing in common that the 4Runner doesn't, there based on a front wheel drive setup, there engines and transmissions are set up differently, they are built for CV joints in the front and distribute about 60 % or more power to the front wheels at all times. They will not bind up too much under say a full lock turn. The 4Runner, as great as it is will bind under a full lock if the situation is just right. It is based off of a rear wheel drive setup, granted the transfer cases are different on the Fulltime 4wd vs the part time of the v6 but the results are still the same practically. Not trying to beat the dead horse, there are less moving parts when the 4wd is not engaged on the part time which DIRECTLY influences maintnence in the long run. To be a little more specific it will effect the CV joints in the front from being binded more often and it will effect the gears/bands, not sure which one is in our transfer case, alot quicker in the v8. The 4Runners are great in our vehicles, BUT, the v8 wasn't right for me when I purchased in 04, its that simple. It wasn't about cost either, it just wasn't right, thats the beauty of having options, I haven't regretted it a day since. I wouldn't mind having a 05 Sport with the ne v8 though

T

 

[CVsGX470]

Re: Re: Re: V8 all the way

Many things to consider when resale value is looked at, an SR5 V8 model is worth less then a loaded V6 Limited any day of the week.

This is just another pointless V8, V6 battle, the only way a similiar V6 version is worth more is if the V8 has twice as many miles:

Just because V6 and V8 come up in the same sentence it doesn't mean that it is a battle. I don't think an article would be written comparing the resale value of two totally different trucks. No sh!t a car with 1/2 as many miles is worth more as long as they are the same model. The article that he was referring to was for two SR5s with different engines. You always say that you won't battle and you always refer to a debate as a battle and enter you two cents. I think that you do a lot of assuming! And you know what they say about that don't you? You make it sound like we are all flucking nutts for having a V6. Maybe your name does say alot about you...a little EDGEy from time to time? :bash:

 

[CVsGX470]

Okay, here is the deal. I wrote the above to get a rise out of EDGE b/c of the obsession with the V6 vs V8 debate. I could really care less. $20 says he reads that post before reading this one and starts an argument about it. I have the popcorn ready.
If he reads this first and doesn't respond and figures out that I am just yanking his crank, I will mail him the $20...shhhh everyone!


CV:corn:

 

[boston_kevin]

resale on V8 vs V6

I have been watching this for a while avoiding the V8 vs V6 battle, but the resale issue is just plain stupid... Looking up resale values at face value, yea, the V8 is worth more (average about $400 if you trust kelly blue book) for '04 and '03 4Runners. The V8 option when new was about $1400 on both model years (this is an SR5 by the way with identical milage of 30k and identical options). If you look at it that way, then the resale is actually less because of the higher initial investment (netting a loss of $1000).

I have the V6, I'm happy with it and my 22 mpg avg (and 450 miles per tank). I drove both the V6 and the V8 and really didn't feel that much difference and the differences I did feel I attributed to a 4 spd vs a 5 spd. I also did not need a vehicle that could tow 7000 lbs.

Based on most people's input from this web site, people are not interested in the short term resale anyway, and long term resale tends to hit a plateau regardless of the engine or tranny, but takes in factors such as milage, overall condition, long term reliability, etc. In that case, I doubt you will see any appreciable difference in resale value from either engine.

If you are thinking about V6 vs V8... You can't go wrong with either engine, especially now that they have the same tranny. Go with what you think you will need or what you really want. All of the V6 people are going to push the advantages of the V6. All of the V8 people are going to push the advantages of the V8. A little bashing from either side is just part of the debate. Take your time and drive lots of the 4runners... Take a V8 one overnight and a V6 another overnight if they will let you and keep in mind how long you want to keep the vehicle and how many hours a day you will be spending in it.

edit.. After re-reading this post, I really didn't mean to sound like I was bashing those discussing the resale, I just feel that the raw numbers for short term show something different than what is being stated, and long term resale will not have an appreciable difference between engines.

 

[Northof49]

Re: Knew this was coming

Alright,

All of those that you listed have one thing in common that the 4Runner doesn't, there based on a front wheel drive setup, there engines and transmissions are set up differently, they are built for CV joints in the front and distribute about 60 % or more power to the front wheels at all times. They will not bind up too much under say a full lock turn. The 4Runner, as great as it is will bind under a full lock if the situation is just right. It is based off of a rear wheel drive setup, granted the transfer cases are different on the Fulltime 4wd vs the part time of the v6 but the results are still the same practically. Not trying to beat the dead horse, there are less moving parts when the 4wd is not engaged on the part time which DIRECTLY influences maintnence in the long run. To be a little more specific it will effect the CV joints in the front from being binded more often and it will effect the gears/bands, not sure which one is in our transfer case, alot quicker in the v8. The 4Runners are great in our vehicles, BUT, the v8 wasn't right for me when I purchased in 04, its that simple. It wasn't about cost either, it just wasn't right, thats the beauty of having options, I haven't regretted it a day since. I wouldn't mind having a 05 Sport with the ne v8 though

That's fine, I never said it wasn't right for you! I just wanted to since no one on here has real solid evidence that the part-time system will last any longer, it really shouldn't get brought up as an advantage.

This early in the 4rth gen's life cycle, it's too hard to tell. What if the V8's 4wd system lasts 1,000,000 miles and the V6's last 1,010,000 miles? Who cares, cause the rest of the truck probably won't last that long anyways!

 

[Bluto]

Re: Re: Knew this was coming

I just wanted to since no one on here has real solid evidence that the part-time system will last any longer, it really shouldn't get brought up as an advantage.

The part-time system adds a lot of additional parts that can fail. Just my opinion.

 

[Bluto]

Re: My decision

I've owned alot of 4wd vehicles and the fulltime 4wd is definately harder to maintain in the latter part of the vehicles life
T

You have owned full-time 4WD Toyota Trucks before?


I hope your not assuming the reliability of a Heep fulltime 4WD applies to a Toyota.

 

[Koz]

Re: Re: My decision

I hope your not assuming the reliability of a Heep fulltime 4WD applies to a Toyota.

"HEEP" That is so funny!:lmao:

Koz

 

[EDGE]

Okay, here is the deal. I wrote the above to get a rise out of EDGE b/c of the obsession with the V6 vs V8 debate. I could really care less. $20 says he reads that post before reading this one and starts an argument about it. I have the popcorn ready.
If he reads this first and doesn't respond and figures out that I am just yanking his crank, I will mail him the $20...shhhh everyone!


CV:corn:

I read both I'll expect my $20 within the week, I'll PM you my address:

Now of course I post to get a rise out of the V6 guys:arrow: but a V8 with all the same options as a V6 is probably, $300-$1000 dollars more give or take but it really depends on the people who are buying cause the V8 is more of a want it not need it option.

Most guys on this board took the V6 over the V8 for several reason but everyone could afford a V8 4Runner, it's not like the other Auto Makers who offer the bigger engine for $5000 more with all the same options

 

[CVsGX470]

I read both I'll expect my $20 within the week, I'll PM you my address:

Now of course I post to get a rise out of the V6 guys:arrow: but a V8 with all the same options as a V6 is probably, $300-$1000 dollars more give or take but it really depends on the people who are buying cause the V8 is more of a want it not need it option.

Most guys on this board took the V6 over the V8 for several reason but everyone could afford a V8 4Runner, it's not like the other Auto Makers who offer the bigger engine for $5000 more with all the same options

Damn, Foiled again!

The money really wasn't an issue with me. I paid cash for my V6 and could have and did almost buy the 8. You know my reasons. Leave me your address and I will mail you the 20.

CV