Never OFF-ROAD Alone!

Sac State said:
Nah, the Jeep would have broken down way before getting that far down the trail.

With any other Jeep, i would agree with you. However, the Rubicon is a Wrangler. And a Wrangler has very little power equipment and electronics (no power windows or mirrors)...there is just nothing to break. Rubicon's running gears are tough-as-nails (lockers are actually stronger than ARB!). Therefore, Wrangler is actually quite reliable.
 
Thai said:
With any other Jeep, i would agree with you. However, the Rubicon is a Wrangler. And a Wrangler has very little power equipment and electronics (no power windows or mirrors)...there is just nothing to break. Rubicon's running gears are tough-as-nails (lockers are actually stronger than ARB!). Therefore, Wrangler is actually quite reliable.

:iagree:

I owned a '91 wrangler and never had it in the shop in 10 years - I did my own maintence those days... Chrysler really didn't touch the wrangler since there was little they could borrow from or add to the basic 4WD monster... Even today, everything is manual from the windows and locks to the transfer case. The biggest down side to the wranglers is on the road (and the lack of creature comforts). Off road, they (especially the Rubicons) are extremely capable and reliable.
 
that's a sad scene to see. good thing they survived but, driver was rely dumb ignoring the sign. Plus, I know no one here would even try to put their 4runner though a space like that with a new truck!
 
Thai said:
With any other Jeep, i would agree with you. However, the Rubicon is a Wrangler. And a Wrangler has very little power equipment and electronics (no power windows or mirrors)...there is just nothing to break. Rubicon's running gears are tough-as-nails (lockers are actually stronger than ARB!). Therefore, Wrangler is actually quite reliable.

Family Wrangler=2 blown engines (oil blowing back into air element) had to involve corporate for a 11K mile vehicle, tranny that died and I actually had to use a rental Subaru to pull the Wrangler out of a snow bank when it got stuck.

I am not a fan of Jeep's. Glad you have had good luck.
 
Sac State - which engines were these? The 4.0L inline 6 was a great engine (in my experience), but I always questioned the little 4 bangers on that vehicle... Rubicon only comes with the 4.0L engine until 2007... Now they are discontinuing both the 4 banger and the 4.0L engine in favor of a 3.8L (or so I have read).
 
That looks like an attempt resulting from an altered mental state of some sort. If that was the guy's normal judgment, I'm not happy to know I'm sharing the road with him.

My off-roading opportunities usually come with little notice. If I wouldn't go alone, I'd go much less often. It IS possible to prepare properly and do it safely. You just have to be willing and prepared to endure the potentially very long process of rectifying a stuck situation.
 
Re: Traveling Alone

Atomic 4Runner said:
I'm bringing along a PLB (Personal Locator Beacon)...

...Here's some info on PLBs if you're interested...

Very interesting. I've been pretty close to pulling the trigger on a sat phone for a while, but I'm not going to do it before reading up on this. Thanks for posting.
 
I almost want to say that with all of the rocks laying around there, I could have gotten unstuck with the stock jack and a big pile of rocks. It would have taken a few hours but it would have been better than the alternative. Not to mention it would have done some damage to the truck -- a moot point by now for sure.


Of course, I wouldn't have been anywhere neat that place without another truck... :awais:
 
I wonder what was going through this guy's mind when he decided to try and drive over that (assuming he was the one behind the wheel and not his wife, or dog for that matter)...

"Hmm, I've got a stock 4Runner with stock suspension and stock tires, should be fine!!" :confused: :confused: :confused:

Maybe he went to take a piss or something and his wife wanted to have a little fun...

Either way, I'm glad no one was seriously hurt or killed, lucky for them they were spotted...
 
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ovrrdrive said:
I almost want to say that with all of the rocks laying around there, I could have gotten unstuck with the stock jack and a big pile of rocks. It would have taken a few hours but it would have been better than the alternative. Not to mention it would have done some damage to the truck -- a moot point by now for sure.


Of course, I wouldn't have been anywhere neat that place without another truck... :awais:


I know it is hard to tell without being there personally. But I agree with Ovrride. I would have spent a full day just adding rocks. I remember back In high school a friend and I built a rock ramp to cross a little river. You just need patience. You don't even need to worry about large stones, a ton of medium 10 lbs rocks will do.

I always thought that the worst thing you can lose when in trouble if you creativity. The whole thing seems like the responsible was not in his/her full use of mind.
 
alright.... im saving all those pictures.... anyone have the gps cord.? im feeling lucky!!

and this years darwin award goes to....

and people wonder why people die offroading, i would try it in my truck, but only with a $#!+ load of beer in my system and another vehicle around. i wonder how he managed to do that, obviosuly someone with little to NO offroading knowledge. end of trail means END OF TRAIL!!!
 
RunnerUp said:
i wonder how he managed to do that, obviosuly someone with little to NO offroading knowledge. end of trail means END OF TRAIL!!!

Someone who bought into the Toyota commercials a bit too much....:p
 
hahaha.... dont say that, they will think they can sue toyota! i hope it is someone on this board, i want to see what they were thinking.
 
Just curious: Given he wasn't very smart on several counts, suppose he was traveling with another vehicle, someone who had a winch on his truck or a good strong tow rope. I would assume that that they would have a good chance of being successful at pulling him out backwards if he wasn't wedged in too tight. Where would you attach the hook for the steel cable or tow rope onto his 4Runner as to do the least damage?
 
biglatka said:
Just curious: Given he wasn't very smart on several counts, suppose he was traveling with another vehicle, someone who had a winch on his truck or a good strong tow rope. I would assume that that they would have a good chance of being successful at pulling him out backwards if he wasn't wedged in too tight. Where would you attach the hook for the steel cable or tow rope onto his 4Runner as to do the least damage?

The rear tow hitch is a good place.
 
Thai said:
The rear tow hitch is a good place.

Thai,
The possible problem with that is that you may be pulling on the tow hitch with a large vertical force component (pulling at an angle with respect to the horizontal). Will the hitch be able to take this non-horizontal force?
 
biglatka said:
Thai,
The possible problem with that is that you may be pulling on the tow hitch with a large vertical force component (pulling at an angle with respect to the horizontal). Will the hitch be able to take this non-horizontal force?

Better than anywhere else. The hitch distributes the force. Almost everywhere else, the force will be concentrated on one spot (aka at stock tow hook locations).
 

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